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Post by slave2gaming on Nov 10, 2016 3:17:42 GMT
Hey guys, I've been looking at basing for the upcoming Slave 2 Gaming rules called "Trench Storm Reloaded" and I ended up coming to the idea of using 60x20mm Rendra bases, rather than going with the 100x20mm that AQMF uses. Now you are probably thinking "So what, its a different game!" But I wondered whether this type of basing might be useful for AQMF as well, hear me out. A standard US infantry unit has 3 stands of 5 figures, one shot per base. This makes them a bit weak against anything that is big, a whole unit shooting and only doing 3 hits. I found myself thinking that I could better use the points to buy HMG's or even Cavalry and focus on either heavy firepower or mobile firepower. Ive based the Infantry as 5 stands of 3 figures, one with a Light Machine gun. This gives a total of 4 dice for the standard bases + 2 dice for the LMG = a total of 6 dice. This means that with the loss of even one or two stands they are still a useful fighting unit and they tend not to run away as much (break point is higher). I plan to run them in a company of 3 units with the Junior Officer as a mobile command stand rather than a set at the rear command. There is always a possibility of adding them into transports, but even this way below has quite a bit of firepower for only 3 units of Infantry (9 dice currently V's 18 dice with new basing) What do people think of this? I've yet to try it, but I just wondered what people thought of the idea.
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Post by loyalist on Nov 10, 2016 7:56:03 GMT
I like the idea. The spacing between the 3 figures on the 60mm long bases would be approximately the same as on 100mm bases (~20mm, with 10mm between the left and right end figures and the ends of the base; I prefer the look of the figures on the shorter bases. The BEF poses a bit of a problem with its 10 man infantry units; the stand with the coil gun figure could have 4 figures and be 80mm long.
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Post by Quendil on Nov 10, 2016 9:02:27 GMT
I'm committed to the 100mm bases now as I have based so many and don't want to redo them. However if I was to do it again I would use shorter but wider bases
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Post by slave2gaming on Nov 10, 2016 9:09:21 GMT
Yeah, I wasn't too sure what to do about the BEF idea, the AQMF British that I have is a huge amount and so I'd thought of just making them up the same as the US or even mixing them with the S2G guys to fill it out.
The other thought might be to go with two bases of 3 figures and two of 2 figures. The two figures could be a coil gun and regular BEF on one stand + another stand with a regular BEF and the unit leader.
Just a thought
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Post by madmorgan on Nov 10, 2016 22:20:40 GMT
Well, I've long advocated for a different size base for most of the infantry types in AQ. But, your idea takes it a step further, sizing the unit into 5 fire teams vs 3 fire teams the rules used. As you've pointed out, the problem is the Brits. I think I'd favor the 3 & 2 mix - this could be done with all the fire teams (USA & BEF), thus allowing a balance look in mixed battles (Anglo I call them). I might just do that with my S2G battalions, as they are the height of weapons and tactics. Applying it to the Marine formations makes them even more difficult to take out - AQ using 6 elements becoming 12 elements! Given that I give Marines Elan (+1 Morale Rolls and 60% break point), they'd be damn hard to break. Somehow appropriate on their 241st Birthday. Huuuurah! Of coarse this would be a major change in the game and its balance or lack thereof. More to ponder on this, I will.
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Post by boxholder on Nov 12, 2016 22:48:34 GMT
Quendil: You can always cut the longer bases into two shorter ones and touch up the cut edges.
You will end up with one base that has 3 guys and one with 2. But see Slave2Gaming's post immediately following yours.
The exact number of guys on a stand is irrelevant in AQMF because firing is based on "elements," not the number of figures on the stands that comprise the elements.
Mr Razor Saw is your friend!
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Post by madmorgan on Nov 13, 2016 22:52:53 GMT
Yes. I've decided to redo my French Foreign Legion as a 3 man stand element. I'll sum all this up in a TO&E FFL 1917 Revised in the sub board for those interested. I'm doing a full company of FFL and some Arab units support as well. Much though the Arabs hate the French, they hate the Martians more and are more or less an independent unit of the Legion. They won't have Elan, but will have Ambush capability beyond the norm.
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