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Post by easye on Jun 13, 2016 16:00:01 GMT
So, the heavy Artillery batteries get a pre-game barrage. Can Martian Grenadiers be used as the basis to do something similar?
Your thoughts?
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Post by madmorgan on Jun 14, 2016 14:13:06 GMT
Interesting thought - not sure. If you're using a standard 4'x 6' table with 'long edge' than it seems reasonable as the Grenadiers have a range that exceeds the table size (ei. 50" range vs 48" table). The question is do the Martians have a plotting system that allows grid fire similar to the humans. In this I favor a Yes on the question as they could fire pre-game barrage, but, don't forget to add the -2 to hit due to the lack of Scout targeting. I'd recommend that the Grenadier must be on the table for 'narrow edge' pre-game barrages, just like the humans artillery.
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Post by mikedski on Jun 14, 2016 17:54:01 GMT
I think someone at sometime had a pregame black dust attack. The attacks, if successful, only caused units to route in place so as to disrupt defenses.
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Post by madmorgan on Jun 14, 2016 19:16:37 GMT
The green gas barrage could be a problem for entrenched troops as a pre-game situation. Would give the Martian player(s) a target to push Assaults, etc. towards if part of the line was already broken by the gas.
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Post by mikedski on Jun 15, 2016 12:13:00 GMT
No worse than having your drone controlling machine blasted by heavy arty before the first turn.
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Post by easye on Jun 15, 2016 16:22:49 GMT
Pre-game gas attacks also seem pretty thematic to some of the Martian tactics in the War of the Worlds book AND historical events in the real world around the time of the AQMF setting. I seem to recall the martians using Black Dust on some cities, and of course in WWI gas attacks were a thing.
Do Martians have the concept of long range strategic artillery as opposed to tactical artillery?
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Post by madmorgan on Jun 16, 2016 11:19:31 GMT
I believe that the Grenadier can only fire Green Gas and explosives; no idea what the Martians have in the concepts, though one could argue that hitting the earth from mars counts along way towards understanding long range artillery on a strategic level. This begs the question that with the prey-that-stings getting better at killing their machines, could we see a "LIC" new Martian 3gen machine in the future?? They've shown the ability to construct tripods, how about a very large quad with many weapons and functions. Just using the AD tech, you count have multiple missile launchers, grenadier style artillery, and a few sunguns to really put terror to the battlefield. I won't be making one of these anytime soon mind you, but the "Ogre" as the few survivors called it is a fearsome beast... (yes, with a nod to Steve Jackson games).
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Post by hardlec on Jun 16, 2016 12:40:08 GMT
I can see the Martians creating suicide drones that form a wave ahead of the main body and deliver a green gas or black dust attack, or possibly be animated Bangalore Torpedoes to clear obstacles. While I won't speculate on what Martians lack, concept wise, they show a strong focus on direct fire weapons.
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Post by billf on Jun 16, 2016 14:14:25 GMT
The heavy artillery bombardment represents them shooting at the Martians as they approach the battlefield,not once they are up close and personal. To reflect the fact that they can't really tell at a distance which tripod is which,we randomize which tripod actually gets hit.
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Post by charleybourne on Jun 16, 2016 14:49:07 GMT
Hardlec, bomb drones; I like it!
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Post by madmorgan on Jun 17, 2016 22:15:16 GMT
Hmmm I think that the earlier discussion on 'lobocattle' fits well with the idea of 'bomb drones'; large cattle lobo'd with a combination of explosives, gas, and dust would be a terrifying new weapon, especially to the Texas folks!
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