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Post by Chronos on Feb 7, 2016 16:19:44 GMT
Most Drones use tripod legs but not all. There are the flying Drones which are rare as they were a Kickstarter exclusive . My question is now the Martians have workable flying Drones why don't we start to build flying Scorpions or flying Sniper Drones? Flying technology must have advantages over walking tech.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 7, 2016 23:29:37 GMT
Hmmm a frightning thought of extension of the Martian war machine. I'm not sure that they have the tech to do those or perhaps the proper materials. We don't have a clue as to how they 'grav tanked' the hover drones & why they didn't do the same with their 'tripod' (more like the floating ones in orginial movie). I'd suppose its possible - need to mull over it some more.
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Post by Chronos on Feb 8, 2016 4:10:52 GMT
the real reason is because they were Kickstarter exclusives and yet they're full written up in the rules despite the fact they're very hard to find . But there will be other models out there now to use ,we just have to find them .
We know they worked ,we know they are out there , and we have little idea how most Martian tech works. I imagine it was easier to build the flying drones 1st as they are smaller.
Flying pods would have been too much like the movie ones.Also if you've just invested a lot of money in tripod molds you want to keep using them and getting your moneys worth out of them. This is a real world reason why we wouldn't ha e see flying pods until we all had a horde of tripods each.
i hope this makes sense its 4am
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Post by mikedski on Feb 8, 2016 10:18:46 GMT
For me the issue with flying drones is they are still limited by the 12 inch controller range and speed of 6 inches. With regular drones having infantry movement capabilities then flying/ hovering not much of an advantage. .
18 - 24 inch controller range and 8 - 10 inch speed would make them excellent reconnaissance tools. Controlled by a veteran scout.
Be that as it is - I wish I had the chance to buy some. I do like the coolness factor on the table top. I think I still have a spare blister of regular drones I would like to convert to flying drones. |
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Post by boxholder on Feb 8, 2016 12:44:19 GMT
Just FYI: Games Workshop has some drone-like flying discs in their equipment for the Tau race. They have flight stands already. A bit $$ but they are available. Look pretty good too.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 8, 2016 12:46:54 GMT
I agree with you both and to mike I say keep looking. I've found several vendors mentioned elsewhere that come close to a good 'hover' and some of the folks have modelled some great looking ones as well (the fellow with the converted Tau drones come to mind). I would think that a good sculpter could make some of them, using other manufactors bodies as a base. See the tab for vendors as there are several. I'll get back to you on this as soon as I can look up a few more. First off is khurasanminiatures.com with their PLA-11 drones, 4 for $2.99. You get 4 turret gunheads and one 'overlord' (read detection drone!) head. I'd definately use a taller flight stand for these as their pretty low to the ground, but they'd do in a pinch and are cheap. Also from hydraminiatures.com theres the 'hoverbots' (5) @$12.50 - these have two nice claws and two 'eyes', one of which could be 'converted' to a sensor or laser. It would be a kind cross with the hover. Or put a modelled 'heat ray' in one of the claws. Just suggestions of coarse.
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Post by scottwashburn on Feb 8, 2016 15:35:18 GMT
As Mike notes, there isn't much of an advantage to flying drones. They won't be hindered by bad terrain, but since they can't move very far from their controller which WILL be hindered by the terrain, it's not like they can zoom across large patches of impassible terrain to get at the humans.
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Post by Chronos on Feb 8, 2016 19:09:06 GMT
The extra cost for having a flying drone as opposed to a walking drone is only 10pts . It's not an expensive option and it could be useful .I'll have to try using flying drones in a few games to see if it does make a difference.
That aside i'd still like to see flying scorpions or snipers etc.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 8, 2016 21:35:21 GMT
Yeap, those dang flyer scorpions are a pain! I think the scorpion hover drone would not be too practical, as again, the range situation. Most armor you'd be after wouldn't be in difficult terrain anyway. I could see a hover style drone with sniper capacity as an AA defense system for a tripod - a sniper drone hover type squad attached to an important scientist or command tripod makes good sense.
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Post by Chronos on Feb 9, 2016 0:25:02 GMT
The range is no different than a normal drone , which people seem to think makes this a bad option.
Generally with Humans when we make a technological break through that works we use it and keep on using it in new ways adapting it. There's no way to know if the Martians think in the same way but if they do we should see more flying drones of all types.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 9, 2016 10:17:25 GMT
Well, I'm certainly up for new drones (wink) as can be seen by my thread on same. I'll work up a hover sniper drone if you work up what you'd think a hover scorpion drone would be like. As an aside, we could always step a little away from the AD prototypes on these - call them something else and suggest a different manufactors line for the models as well. What you think?? Its kinda awkward wording 'hover sniper drone', the hover drone was fine as it stood alone, but we should come up with new names and new figures to help this concept along; also making it easier for those who wish to build the squads of three with available models. Thoughts??
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Post by mikedski on Feb 10, 2016 12:34:39 GMT
The extra cost for having a flying drone as opposed to a walking drone is only 10pts . It's not an expensive option and it could be useful .I'll have to try using flying drones in a few games to see if it does make a difference. That aside i'd still like to see flying scorpions or snipers etc. Me, too. Go for it. |
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Post by Chronos on Feb 11, 2016 2:04:31 GMT
Well, I'm certainly up for new drones (wink) as can be seen by my thread on same. I'll work up a hover sniper drone if you work up what you'd think a hover scorpion drone would be like. As an aside, we could always step a little away from the AD prototypes on these - call them something else and suggest a different manufactors line for the models as well. What you think?? Its kinda awkward wording 'hover sniper drone', the hover drone was fine as it stood alone, but we should come up with new names and new figures to help this concept along; also making it easier for those who wish to build the squads of three with available models. Thoughti s?? i agree good idea , I'M already looking for suitable bits ,but i'm in no hurry . |
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Post by Burt on Feb 11, 2016 4:35:15 GMT
Just thinking "out loud" here...but I'm not sure the idea of a "sniper" hover drone makes sense. Aren't the snipers equiped with rail guns (as opposed to heat rays?). Seems to me that the any such hover drone would be inherently unstable and potentially tossed about by the recoil on the rail gun. The ground based drone would be much more steady and secure. Thoughts?
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Post by Chronos on Feb 11, 2016 6:13:35 GMT
Just thinking "out loud" here...but I'm not sure the idea of a "sniper" hover drone makes sense. Aren't the snipers equip with rail guns (as opposed to heat rays?). Seems to me that the any such hover drone would be inherently unstable and potentially tossed about by the recoil on the rail gun. Tge ground based drone would be much more steady and secure. Thoughts? Nice thinking there sir ! I hadn't considered that but then again i don't own any snipers so haven't read up on them since they were 1st created. Something must stop the hoover drones when they finally stop moving . Flying snipers would be some of the newest tech and Martians are an alien and ingenious race , they may love these scientific puzzles . Better rear inertia dampers perhaps or stranger alien things beyond our comprehension. |
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