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Post by easye on Feb 22, 2021 19:41:17 GMT
Apologies, I have not read the books in a long time. I was curious how John Carter travelled to Mars? My initial thought was that it was some "new age" (for the time?) Astral Projection type process. His body itself stayed on earth, but he manifest his Astral form on Mars?
As I think a bit more about War of the Worlds: Offensive how would the Humans get to Mars? I can think of only a few examples and those would be Space: 1889, Flash Gordon, and John Carter. The Space: 1889 and Flash Gordon models seem less likely in the AQMF timeframe, so that left me to recall the John Carter method of travel.
Thanks for your help!
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Post by boxholder on Feb 23, 2021 14:06:18 GMT
I did not get into the John Carter series,
The Space 1889 world depended on the ‘luminiferous ether” which permeated all matter. By clever invention, it could be harnessed to provide propulsion in vacuum by the “ether propeller.” Ether propellers were invented by famous electromagnetic experimenters like Edison, Tesla, Armstrong and others.
Ether propellers did not work at low altitudes due to atmospheric interference, so they could only operate at high altitudes (above 12.000ft). However, when “liftwood” was discovered on Mars the problem of low altitude flight was overcome. Liftwood created a gravity shadow above it rendering things above it weightless. This enabled a combined liftwood/ether propeller craft to be created for surface take-off and vacuum flight. Before lift wood was available, ether propeller flight had to be from high mountaintops or from balloons or dirigibles. The laboratories working on them were located far up mountains.
While we are at it, let us remember “Cavorite,” a synthetic analog of lift wood. HG Wells created it his book The First Men In the Moon. By blocking gravity on one side or the other, his spacecraft could liftoff and maneuver.
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Post by scottwashburn on Feb 23, 2021 17:30:05 GMT
As I recall, he got there basically by wishing himself there  I don't remember the exact process, but there was no vessel or ship of any kind involved. |
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Post by loyalist on Dec 13, 2021 12:53:05 GMT
I re-read the first few books in the series two years ago. Hadn't read them since junior high! The way he's transported to Mars sounds like a form of astral projection - with the major exception that his body went too! The cave he sheltered in from the indigenous warriors was a portal of some sort. How he got back to earth wasn't as clear, but later he's able to will himself back to Mars, apparently from any location.
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Post by easye on Dec 13, 2021 16:49:39 GMT
So, he was delusional and never went to Mars at all!
Just kidding, the portal idea has some merit for wargaming as well. A way to bring on reserves, leave the board, and points to control.
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Post by boxholder on Dec 13, 2021 20:55:39 GMT
Astral projection or something is a pretty neat way to beat TSA and FAA travel requirements and crowded COVID laced airports.
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Post by jmccarroll on Dec 14, 2021 1:22:59 GMT
Are there Covid restrictions on astral projection? I'm pretty sure they will tax it in the near future.
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Post by boxholder on Dec 14, 2021 12:53:13 GMT
Astral IRS. Scary thought, that.
If they can find a way, it will be taxed. Count on it!
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Post by hardlec on Dec 16, 2021 11:36:15 GMT
It is possible for humans to get to Mars with "Steampunk Technology."
Create a tube, about 100 meters in diameter. Along side it is a tube 10 meters in diameter. Both pointed up. They are connected at the bottom. The whole structure is in a earthen mound.
The small tube is empty, at the bottom there is a "capsule" with the appropriate payload.
The larger tube is filled with water.
Explosive bolts are detonated. The water from the large tube is released and pushes the capsule up.
The "flush toilet" has the energy to get a payload into space. A journey to Mars is possible.
In a place like the Space Coast in Florida, there is enough rain to make this system work. The space coast was chosen for rockets because it is close to the equator and Earth's rotation gives space capsules a boost.
Possible.
Practical on a scale to invade Mars?
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Post by xaxiuscolnier on Dec 18, 2021 6:57:04 GMT
well... in the war of the worlds setting you could use flash boiling of the reservoir with captured heat rays to make the system more efficient by water volume, allowing you to send larger payloads, or small payloads with less water. actually, the Martians may have used something similar.
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I don't remember the exact process, but there was no vessel or ship of any kind involved.
