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Post by madmorgan on Jan 18, 2016 18:28:58 GMT
I've been looking at the Old Glory/Blue Moon/Aliens line and see that they have quite a few 'battletech' style figures with measurements. So what would the developement of the human walkers be like?? Bipedal? Tripod? Quad or more?? I'd think it'd favor the Bipedal or more stable Quad legged designs. To that end, what do you think of adding 'mechwarrior' style Old Glory Alien walkers to the mix. Also, there are some niffty Alien infantry; even some robotic forces. Could those be seen on the battlefields of later 1916 or 1917s Martian Front?? Just thinking aloud here.
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Post by paulnippress on Jan 18, 2016 22:03:35 GMT
Although it wasn't the best of films, War of the Worlds: Goliath did a good job of postulating Human tech based on captured Martian machines.
However, from a personal point of view, I prefer the idea that Humans didn't go down that route. It stops the game going towards a more conventional steampunk style. To my mind, it adds a little more realism.
But given the state of the game at the moment, it appears that different players will be making it "more their own" so my advice to everyone would be go with what you like!
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Post by madmorgan on Jan 18, 2016 23:17:49 GMT
glad to 'see' you on here paul! Yes, I agree the 'walkers' would need more steampunk modeling to 'fit' in. Some of the parts from Conqueror minis.
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Post by boxholder on Jan 18, 2016 23:34:49 GMT
For my money, humans would probably go with a quadrupedal or a hexapedal walker, if anything. We have lots of experience with quadrupeds and how they walk. A six leg walker could coordinate itself as a couple of interlaced triangles, two legs on one side and one on the other. That would be a very stable arrangement with three legs on the ground at all times. A bipedal walker would probably be WAY beyond what turn of century technology could stabilize upright.
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Post by mikedski on Jan 18, 2016 23:56:29 GMT
Although it wasn't the best of films, War of the Worlds: Goliath did a good job of postulating Human tech based on captured Martian machines. However, from a personal point of view, I prefer the idea that Humans didn't go down that route. It stops the game going towards a more conventional steampunk style. To my mind, it adds a little more realism. But given the state of the game at the moment, it appears that different players will be making it "more their own" so my advice to everyone would be go with what you like! This. I was drawn to AQMF because of the combination of a favorite SF novel and an alternate WWI aesthetic but no steam punk/ Space 1899/ John Carter weirdness. Just not my thing. |
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Post by scottwashburn on Jan 19, 2016 2:26:12 GMT
Actually, I loved the War of the Worlds Goliath movie. TR was fantastic!  But as for walkers, I can't see any advantage to them for the humans. And considering that we can't really make a practical one even today argues against it for a hundred years ago. |
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Post by madmorgan on Jan 19, 2016 4:47:22 GMT
Yes the more I think about it the less likely it is.
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Post by Quendil on Jan 19, 2016 7:00:40 GMT
Have to say I disagree and like the idea of different factions using walkers. I think it brings a better degree of variation to the armies rather than them being a copy of the British or USA.
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Post by madmorgan on Jan 19, 2016 10:47:46 GMT
Of coarse the old standby, 'we found gyro and stablization tech off the Martian machines', would be a method to get those bipedals working. the addition of some smoke stacks (via various companies or modelled from straws etc.) would lend itself to making those Old Glory figures into top rate 'walkers'. I'm really on the fence about this one; on the one had is the IRL arguement that we humankind can't get the tech right even now. On the other, theres that fantasy element of AQMF that lends itself to this sort of approach. Hopefully, fun will win out - but, for now I'm leaving off on it. Peace out.
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Post by mikedski on Jan 19, 2016 12:46:41 GMT
Not to say I wouldn't mind seeing whatever modeling efforts you bring to the game. I like your work with the Prussians.
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Post by madmorgan on Jan 19, 2016 13:22:04 GMT
Okay, I'm such a fan of mikedski, that I'll do the workup on the walkers for the fun of it. All references to figures will be from the Old Glory-Blue Moon-Alien Vehicles tabs. I'll get on that later today perhaps - got a huge 'historic' storm on the way this weekend and might be down (no power) Friday thru Sunday. Laters!
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Post by GrinZ on Jan 22, 2016 22:25:39 GMT
I like the Idea. But there are some Problems within.
Speed? Dont think that those Machines will Speed fast. 2-4"?
Whats with different Terrain?
If: There must be a spezial Damage-Chart for them.
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Post by madmorgan on Jan 22, 2016 23:13:17 GMT
Probably 4" max, basically a driver for each leg. Terrain the same as for Tripods. No need for special damage chart really as a single penetrating hit takes them out. Arguement could be made that the 'heavy' could take two hits like the MkIV Monitor write up, in which case roll for a mix of guns and mobility issues. I'll take a look later at a possible chart for that, but would prefer to keep it simple.
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Post by leecptinf on Jan 24, 2016 7:22:52 GMT
I have to say, not a fan.
In the source material, War of the Worlds, Wells describes how Mars has nothing like the wheel. It was never developed. (Seems strange, but the Americas give a real life example of a society that never invented the wheel). So, no wheels for Martians - that's our thing.
Big wheeled vehicles like the Goliath and land ships, sure. That's our wheelhouse. Leave the walkers to the three-legged slugs from the fourth rock from the Sun.
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Post by madmorgan on Jan 24, 2016 8:15:21 GMT
A very valid point as well. I can see the controversy. And theres always the human nature to hate the oppressor, so unlikely they would 'dupe' a walker. Those models are so cool. Still considering.
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