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Post by Quendil on Jun 15, 2017 8:37:30 GMT
I like what I see, much better than the old Alien Dungeon landship. How much does this beast weigh and how hard do you think it be to transport? Not sure how much it weighs but it is a lot lighter than the old AD one. It should transport easier as it does not have the metal tower and railings that the other one has , which i find bend out of shape just by looking at them. |
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Post by madmorgan on Jun 15, 2017 9:28:52 GMT
Good info  |
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Post by loyalist on Jun 15, 2017 10:57:59 GMT
I like what I see, much better than the old Alien Dungeon landship. How much does this beast weigh and how hard do you think it be to transport? Not sure how much it weighs but it is a lot lighter than the old AD one. It should transport easier as it does not have the metal tower and railings that the other one has , which i find bend out of shape just by looking at them. The metal railings on my AD landship were horribly twisted on arrival and weren't usable. I replaced them with splinter screens made from styrene, which was the start of the major kit-bash to make my BEF version. |
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Post by Quendil on Jun 15, 2017 11:06:53 GMT
Not sure how much it weighs but it is a lot lighter than the old AD one. It should transport easier as it does not have the metal tower and railings that the other one has , which i find bend out of shape just by looking at them. The metal railings on my AD landship were horribly twisted on arrival and weren't usable. I replaced them with splinter screens made from styrene, which was the start of the major kit-bash to make my BEF version. Mines still just undercoated green just haven't had the inspiration to do anything with it yet |
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Post by David N.Tanner 07011959 on Jun 15, 2017 18:38:07 GMT
One thing I don't like about the model is the location and short height of the funnels. In their present location they'd smoke out the bridge and main gun viewfinders if the wind was from astern. If I was building it I'd use one funnel and relocate it to the higher platform just behind the bridge. For 2 funnels I'd build a structure underneath them to raise them far enough that the tops of the funnels are just above the bridge roof. I can't remember where but I read this was always a problem with coal fired ships. Some ships had better layouts and some didn't. |
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Post by loyalist on Jun 15, 2017 21:39:28 GMT
One thing I don't like about the model is the location and short height of the funnels. In their present location they'd smoke out the bridge and main gun viewfinders if the wind was from astern. If I was building it I'd use one funnel and relocate it to the higher platform just behind the bridge. For 2 funnels I'd build a structure underneath them to raise them far enough that the tops of the funnels are just above the bridge roof. I can't remember where but I read this was always a problem with coal fired ships. Some ships had better layouts and some didn't. It was still a problem in the late 1920s when the Royal Navy made the funnels too short on the Kent Class heavy cruisers. The RN had to raise the funnels 15' after trials; the RAN raised the funnels on their two (Australia and Canberra) 18'. Looks like the ship designers didn't learn much from the dreadnought era funnel smoke problems. |
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Post by hardlec on Jun 16, 2017 17:09:57 GMT
Indeed, the location of the funnels has vexed many ship designs.
One thing that was noticed on the nuclear USS Enterprise was that the lack of exhaust gas from a funnel made landing aircraft easier.
There was quite a lot of design controversy regarding the smokestacks of railroad locomotives. Certain designs were able to reduce hot cinders from flying about, which often caused fires on the train as well as to the nearby right of way.
A Warship, whether on the land or the water, has considerations that are different from commercial ships. The Warship needs to maneuver, often violently, and it needs to fight without being blinded by its own smoke.
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Post by David N.Tanner 07011959 on Jun 17, 2017 16:56:32 GMT
Yea, if the landships don't have "spark arresters" you wouldn't want them driving around your backyard.
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Post by garagebay9 on Jun 23, 2017 5:49:04 GMT
Indeed, the location of the funnels has vexed many ship designs. One thing that was noticed on the nuclear USS Enterprise was that the lack of exhaust gas from a funnel made landing aircraft easier. There was quite a lot of design controversy regarding the smokestacks of railroad locomotives. Certain designs were able to reduce hot cinders from flying about, which often caused fires on the train as well as to the nearby right of way. A Warship, whether on the land or the water, has considerations that are different from commercial ships. The Warship needs to maneuver, often violently, and it needs to fight without being blinded by its own smoke. Fire risk and embers flying around is also a major reason why timber companies aggressively moved from coal to oil to fire boilers in their steamers. It's easiest to log in the summer when the trees aren't soaked and heavier, and the weather's good to work in, but it's also the highest fire hazard - you don't want your trains to burn all your product down driving through the forest. For warships, being able to dump fuel oil into the exhaust also allows extremely effective smokescreen laying, without having to carry a dedicated smoke-generating fluid. Extra bonus of smoke in our game is that it's probably just as effective (possibly more so) than water at diffusing heat rays, plus it's opaque for concealment. Unfortunately, by the midpoint of the war, the Martians hold most of the good oilfields in the US. And all the stuff out in the Gulf of Mexico (where the Martians can't harass the humans as easily) isn't accessible with 1910-era tech. There's still the Canadian fields, although those are at risk. |
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Post by boxholder on Jun 23, 2017 11:38:13 GMT
Don't forget the oil fields in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Ohio are still under human control.
Necessity being the mother of invention, it would not take long for humans to begin drilling in shallow water to get at the oil. They know that the oil formations are not restricted to on-shore. Extrapolating into the water can be expected. As they get better at it, deeper and deeper become possible.
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Post by hardlec on Jun 23, 2017 12:40:57 GMT
The Martians accidentally control the helium which is in Texas and Oklahoma, and the Bauxite for aluminum, which is in Arizona and New Mexico.
At least for now.
With the Landships and Goliaths, the prey that stings will take back what is theirs.
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Post by Quendil on Jun 25, 2017 10:02:59 GMT
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Post by Quendil on Jun 29, 2017 10:34:45 GMT
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Post by David N.Tanner 07011959 on Jun 29, 2017 11:40:34 GMT
Awesome!
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Post by boxholder on Jun 30, 2017 21:23:17 GMT
That thing should give Marvin and buddies a real case of the vapors!!
Nice work1
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