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Post by hardlec on Dec 4, 2016 22:34:09 GMT
1. I have a paper model of a Jeep that is easy to assemble, and I can make many of them quickly. Would anyone be disturbed to see Jeep miniatures on an AQMF battlefield?
2. I might buy a paper model railroad, rolling stock. It is technically 1930's to 1950's vintage. Would anyone think this is out of place on an AQMF battlefield? The train will probably not last long, scenario wise, but it will be there.
3. In the fall, I get a good view of the harvested fields and pastures, realizing that the pastures are full of hay bales, both round and square. Would anyone be bothered by round hay bales on the battlefield?
4. On my travels I am realizing that farm fields are huge. Some pastures near me cover an entire section, i.e. a square mile. The grazing land is dotted with small clumps of trees and has a few cow ponds, but is otherwise a lot of empty. From early spring to late fall, the hay/grass is tall enough for a soldier with a pack to kneel in and be partially hidden, or lay prone in and be fully hidden.
Therefor I am considering a re-design on my play surface. A 4x6 foot piece of cotton tarp, one side painted white for winter, the other painted medium brown and then sponge painted in various shades to appear as pasture. Other features can be added as needed.
Comments? Questions? Rants? Raves?
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Post by gdieckhaus on Dec 5, 2016 3:58:47 GMT
I think that if you find the terrain pleasing to your eye then its perfect! Just have fun, thats the main thing and if you find the terrain you mentioned helps then it is great. But if your a purist and are trying to make "historically" acurate diaramas and these things you mentioned bother you ... then dont use them Gregg
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Post by boxholder on Dec 5, 2016 13:03:17 GMT
A Jeep might be stretching it for the AQMF timeline. The big rolled "haybales" are a pretty recent technology. Smaller rectangular balers appear to have become available in late 1930's. Before them, haystacks and hay wagons were the "technology" used for handling hay in bulk. Of course, these provide other scenery options, though pretty combustible. Interesting things can be concealed inside a haystack...
I don't have problems with pretty much anything added as "terrain" features within reason. As gamers, we must compress things to represent them on the playing table. Hence, the wide open fields cannot be even approached in "scale" size. Remember that one mile, 5280 feet, in 1/100th scale is 52.8 feet. Real world rifles and machine guns have effective ranges up to a mile or so, but we represent them as 10s of inches for game purposes. The point is that we are representing terrain, not trying to make it "true scale" size.
The double sided cloth (winter - summer) is a good idea. The boardgame MEMOIR 44 uses the same concept for their gameboards. You may have some problems with color bleed-through on the painting. An alternative is to hit a craft store with a fabric section. They will have some cheap white or slightly off-white fabric and a variety of greens. It wIll probably end up cheaper than a tarp, will be lighter, and will fold into smaller space for storage or transport. The fabric will probably drape easier than a tarp (if you use books or something underneath for hills) and will probably lay flat easier.
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Post by hardlec on Dec 5, 2016 14:23:34 GMT
My painters drop cloth is heavy enough it does not wrinkle easily, light enough it is easy to roll, and designed not to bleed through. I have high hopes for it working. All my thoughts are anachronisms. As all terrain gets to be a bit surreal, I try to make things appealing. I also have to use what I've got.
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Post by madmorgan on Dec 6, 2016 19:07:40 GMT
I'm disturbed anyway LoL. Your game your play. I try to keep all my stuff in the 1925 & before range for a reason - anything beyond that would probably be a stretch for the tech level of the game (in my opinion of coarse). For that reason, personally, I'd nix the Jeep as well as the rolled/squared hay - a haystack is a really good concealment based on the Martians not using infra ray or other penetrating tech. You're on your on for the terrain/table cover you mention - sounds pretty good to me. Finally, I fail to see why you'd not invest in some of Scotts beautiful Rail Road pieces - use the 20mm trains and you've got track, rolling stock, and even train yard buildings all of paper and well within the AQ time frame. The bottom line - its your game, play it as you will. The only judge is you; time will decide if others can 'feel' it as well.
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Post by hardlec on Dec 8, 2016 19:38:20 GMT
Scott's RR is for WWII. I wanted to see what others thought. It is a go. Haystacks are not available, but if I stack the round bales on end they should do. Square bales are pre Spanish-American war. Horse drawn balers were common. The Jeep is a no-go I am looking for a paper flivver. There is nothing in a Jeep that wasn't around in The Great War. If the aesthetics are off, it is too.
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