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Post by David N.Tanner 07011959 on Dec 3, 2016 2:47:02 GMT
Vindictive
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Post by loyalist on Dec 3, 2016 14:46:53 GMT
I didn't think of that one - a name used for one of the Frobisher Class heavy cruisers after WWI. I think the land ironclad will be named Repulse or Valiant. More photos will be posted this evening.
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Post by loyalist on Dec 3, 2016 20:47:40 GMT
BEF land ironclad HMLS Repulse with base coating of turrets and tripod structure completed: A 1 pdr coil gun has replaced the 7" gun in A turret. From the stats Madmorgan and I worked out the difference is a slightly longer range (45" vs 40") and the usual possibility of a breakdown using the Coil Gun rule. The model has 6 HMGs instead of 8 (spotting top roof HMGs removed = -20 pts). I think that makes up in points for the 5" longer range. Broadside port! Note hatches added to the turrets and repaired defect in left side of the wheelhouse visor (see page 2 pics). I'm not sure how to apply the different coil gun rules in the rule book to the 1 pdr gun in A turret. The 1/2 pdr Imperial tank coil gun fails on a to hit roll of 1 on a D10 and has to roll 7+ in a subsequent turn before it can resume firing. The 'heavy' 2 pdr field coil gun and the 'superheavy' coil guns of 3 to 7 pdr size have more complex rules if they have a to hit of roll of 1. They have to roll again on a damage table and have a 10% chance of exploding, plus other outcomes such as being unable to fire again without a successful repair die roll, or being out of action for 1-2 turns. I'm inclined to put the 1 pdr in the sub-heavy coil gun category and use the Imperial tank's coil gun rule.
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Post by madmorgan on Dec 3, 2016 22:49:10 GMT
Wonderful work - look forward to the final painting and 'crewing' of these work of art. That Tesla gun came out looking really fine in place of the 7" gun.
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Post by loyalist on Dec 4, 2016 2:49:11 GMT
The paint job should be finished by next weekend, then the crew will be painted. I ordered a Royal Navy ensign that's about 12' long x 6' wide in this scale (actual length 1.5"). It'll look fairly large on the model and will represent a battle ensign, the oversize ensigns flown when battle is imminent. The flag is in the same UK order from Model Dockyard that includes a ship's siren that'll go on the spotting top roof, and 2 more sirens for bunker command towers.
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Post by boxholder on Dec 4, 2016 3:06:58 GMT
Really nice looking and impressive beast.
Martians should fear this thing.
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Post by loyalist on Dec 4, 2016 5:06:30 GMT
Really nice looking and impressive beast. Martians should fear this thing. Thanks! It's been a long project - a little over 2 months so far - but the end is in sight. Another guy in our war gaming group has a stock ironclad so it'll be interesting to see them together.
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Post by Quendil on Dec 4, 2016 9:17:51 GMT
Great work as always
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Post by loyalist on Dec 11, 2016 13:04:11 GMT
HMLS Repulse has been painted and decals applied. It's getting a coat of protective Krylon varnish spray this morning, then a coat of Testor's Flat Clear. I hope to finish painting the crew figures today and put them aboard.
(The crew won't be aboard today. I was re-tasked to putting up and decorating the Christmas tree!)
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Post by loyalist on Dec 13, 2016 2:11:37 GMT
3 Blue Moon WWI British and 2 AQ command figures have been painted as Royal Navy officers and a signalman, but I'm not sure I like them on the ironclad. One problem is a lack of suitable figures for other crew, so there are just a few officers on deck and a signalman who's the only one wearing a gas mask plus an infantry pack that would have no use on board. (I'll probably omit him.) Another issue is that if the 'Repulse' was in action the crew would probably be 'buttoned up'.
I could use the same figures as a command unit for a naval infantry detachment landed from a gunboat. Blue Moon late 1890s Sudan campaign figures would be fine for the naval infantry units (rifles with boarding cutlasses as bayonets) and Black Hat makes a nice 18mm naval Gatling gnu and crew, so I may go that route.
Big winter storm today with a 1.5 hr commute to travel 12km, and lots of shoveling when I got home so no photos were taken today. I'll post some tomorrow evening and see what people think about modelling the ironclad with or without crew figures.
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Post by loyalist on Dec 13, 2016 20:51:36 GMT
Photos of the nearly complete Land Ironclad (missing only the siren on the spotting top roof and the Royal Navy battle ensign): The letters used for the name were Microscale Railroad Gothic HO scale 8". The stern name used HO scale 12" letters. The 'BEF' letters are HO scale 16" and the number on the funnel is from a 40K Baneblade kit decal sheet. The crew figures except the one reading a clipboard (which is from an AQ command set) are Blue Moon WWI. Two are British officers and the one without a hat (which I'm sure would be against RN regulations) is from a Blue Moon US heavy trench mortar pack. I may give him a green stuff sailor's hat. The blue isn't dark enough for RN uniforms but I couldn't find anything suitable from Vallejo or Citadel and was unsuccessful mixing blue and black. The uniforms were darker before I applied lighter blue highlights so I should have omitted them. The Blue Moon figures are quite good - one officer has a handlebar mustache. Closer view of the Repulse's officers.
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Post by Quendil on Dec 13, 2016 22:05:44 GMT
Lovely work
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Post by madmorgan on Dec 14, 2016 23:40:25 GMT
Love it - I'd go with those Sudan Brits btw - lots of cool looks & the Black Hat Gatling crew is sharp as well. Don't overlook Eureka for some 1941 'Marines' from Wake Island, they'd look good if you don't use on board Marines from AQ/IG. Great work overall as well
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Post by loyalist on Dec 15, 2016 2:42:18 GMT
Love it - I'd go with those Sudan Brits btw - lots of cool looks & the Black Hat Gatling crew is sharp as well. Don't overlook Eureka for some 1941 'Marines' from Wake Island, they'd look good if you don't use on board Marines from AQ/IG. Great work overall as well The 3 figures in helmets from the Marine command squad would look good as land ironclad crew, as would 2 of the helmet-wearing British heavy trench mortar crew from Blue Moon. For now I'll stick with the 4 painted British crew I have. The ironclad's siren and RN battle ensign arrived today and will be installed tomorrow. That will complete the ~2-month project. I came across contradictory stories about the BEF's use of land ironclads in the rule book. In the 'New York Times' article on page 131 the BEF is described taking over a "first batch" of US built LIs "to supplement the BEF's two British-built Land Ironclads". The Canadians are said to have Land Ironclads (apparently the stock US version) but the BEF LIs are described as being modified "to meet British operational requirements" (which was the inspiration for this conversion). The British are said to have called their US-built LIs "General Benedict Arnold" Dreadnoughts. (Not very PC of them!) Then on page 144 the book contradicts most of that story by stating that the BEF does not use certain American equipment including "Land Ironclads", that the British-built LIs are called the "Benedict Arnold Class", and that the Thunderchild II is "currently the only British-built Land Ironclad in North America". Not very good editing by RPS/AD. Obviously I chose the 'NY Times' version of alternative history!
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Post by morbius on Dec 17, 2016 4:53:20 GMT
I think that this is a truly awesome model in the first place, and the modifications only make it better. Fantastic work!
The one thing I am unsure about is the placement of the post supporting the upper "bridge", if that is what it is meant to be.
Is it meant to be sitting on top of the roof of the lower bridge area, or does it actually go through the lower bridge?
Once again, great work, and thank you for sharing the pictures.
Craig
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