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Post by bilko991 on Sept 14, 2016 3:54:08 GMT
Hello! I really like making terrain. I really really like making terrain Ive recently got some old friends together and we are actually playing games again, which is awesome! Unfortunately we don't have much terrain and I'm a bit rusty on making terrain. I think the last time I made any was last millennium! So how to fix this? Well me being me I jumped in the deep end and just got building! The first thing we needed was a game board for Saga (that's what we are playing at the moment). The board only needed to be small as it's a skirmish game and I had a piece of ply wood on hand roughly the right size. So I watched a few YouTube videos and hit Bunnings (DIY home improvement shop here in Australia) for supplies. I think I spent about 4 hours total over two days making what you see below. Note: the layer of pva sealer is still drying in the pics, that's why the patches of soil have white blobs in them Now it's pretty far from perfect but I'm happy with it. It will be more fun to play on than a bare table and I feel far more confident now than when I started. I made a few silly mistakes here and there on this board but nothing serious. Luckily this is a practice board and mistakes are welcome. Next I'm going knock out a couple more, practice different techniques and board types. I also want to design one that I can use for AQMF, hopefully get a game going!! I think this one would be way to small. Any and all thoughts and opinions welcome!
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Post by hardlec on Sept 14, 2016 12:25:19 GMT
The flocking looks good.
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Post by terrance on Sept 14, 2016 16:24:35 GMT
Very nice. Look great. I generally do not flock my table or play boards because it tends to rub off from dragging figure stands across it. Some people use sand glued to the table and paint it to look like grass or soil. I don't do that either because it acts like sandpaper on the figures and templates. I have several clear plastic templates that are scratched to the point they are no longer clear due to sliding them around these type of tables at my FLGS. Just my experience.
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Post by boxholder on Sept 14, 2016 19:21:09 GMT
Don't fret the flocking wear. Any bare spots can be touched up with more flock and glue. Just adds a bit of variability.
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Post by terrance on Sept 14, 2016 20:14:01 GMT
Don't fret the flocking wear. Any bare spots can be touched up with more flock and glue. Just adds a bit of variability. True enough.
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Post by bilko991 on Sept 15, 2016 0:55:56 GMT
Very nice. Look great. I generally do not flock my table or play boards because it tends to rub off from dragging figure stands across it. Some people use sand glued to the table and paint it to look like grass or soil. I don't do that either because it acts like sandpaper on the figures and templates. I have several clear plastic templates that are scratched to the point they are no longer clear due to sliding them around these type of tables at my FLGS. Just my experience. Thank you! You are right, in time some will rub off, but I'm ok with that. It's just like I know my minis will get their paint chipped from being used in games/handling etc. I'll take the damage as long as I'm have fun using them in games Saying all that I've done a fair bit to protect the board. I sprayed on five coats of watered down PVA glue onto the flock to seal it. I then went over it with a mildly stiff brush to take off any loose bits. I lost a bit but most of it is stuck down hard! The bare patches were shiny from the PVA so I went over those with a spray of mat varnish. I'll play a few games on it and see how it all holds up, I'm sure more than one mini will be dropped on it!
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Post by Quendil on Sept 15, 2016 7:02:18 GMT
That looks really good , you should be very happy with it
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Post by hardlec on Sept 16, 2016 1:54:07 GMT
I have had good results on foam by painting a sealer coat, sometimes two, of as close a color match as I could find, then using that color to "glue" the flocking down and repairing any damage or wear with more paint and flocking. Of course, once there was Howard Hues paint, color matched to woodland scenics. There are Folk Art colors that work pretty well. Folk Art: as paint goes, it is a great glue 😉.
Waxed paper, or Freezer paper can be used between boards during transport and storage. The slick paper protects the flocking.
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Post by madmorgan on Sept 16, 2016 11:04:24 GMT
Looks good and I like hardlecs observation on foam board painting & flocking. Inspirational both of you. And the Waxed/Freezer paper it a right on technique to protect during transport. The Folk Art colors are inexpensive and readily available at the local Walmart low prices. Did Howard Hues go away?? It sounds like it from your post.
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Post by hardlec on Sept 16, 2016 12:15:16 GMT
I haven't checked in a long time.
With the Folk Art so easily available, I used that.
When Ral Partha went away I went to liquitex professional, as too many hobby paint lines had disappeared.
Sadly, citadel seems to be all I can find in game stores. I liked HH, it really worked well on metal.
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Post by madmorgan on Sept 16, 2016 12:25:52 GMT
Understandable, local buys much easier on time and money if price is right. How about the metallic Reaper paints? They're a bit expensive but really good I think. Another thought is to check out local discount store (Walmart etc.) car touch up paints. You might find some good metal paints there.
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Post by terrance on Sept 16, 2016 17:46:15 GMT
I now spray my figures with dull coat after adding flock to the bases (used to do it before). That has greatly reduced the problem of flock rubbing off or getting knocked off or falling off because the glue aged. That might work for terrain boards as well, although it could end up as a big outlay for those tiny spray cans. Maybe someone has experience with clear sealer that comes in bigger cans and costs less.
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Post by hardlec on Sept 16, 2016 21:27:36 GMT
I actually go to auto parts stores for certain Touch-up paint. I used to go to a body shop to buy paint, but I moved away.
With my Coupons from the apps, I buy Krylon sealer at a good price. 40% off hobby lobby is even better than wally-mart.
Flocking is why I first bought an airbrush. I bought a plain badger and used an old tire (free) as an air tank. Back in the day I could get free air from the filling station. I used the airbrush to cover big areas of foam sheet, then apply the flock.
I am mildly allergic to the propellent in spray cans. The propellent in spray cans also attacks foam causing it to melt.
Now, sadly, I need a compressor to use my airbrush.
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Post by madmorgan on Sept 17, 2016 12:18:24 GMT
What a novel idea on the air from tire use! That is a good price for Krylon. Good point to everyone out there about the propellent in spray cans.
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Post by boxholder on Sept 18, 2016 21:03:05 GMT
Another source is CO2 that paintball shooters use. They have refillable cylinders.
Probably the apex of hypoallergenic. Nothing that you don't exhale.
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