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Post by hardlec on Sept 13, 2016 0:11:51 GMT
Edison Wire, like mines, will be an area denial obstacle. While potentially deadly, its main purpose is to get targets away from vulnerable areas and into the kill zones of the guns. Low wires for violating drones should be helpful, but not to Martin.
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Post by boxholder on Sept 13, 2016 1:51:05 GMT
To beef up the low Edison wire against lobototon-wave attacks, 3 or 4 parallel lines of low wire could be used. This would provide a series of obstacles that the lobos would need to transit, one after the other, creating casualties each time.
Whether any of the tripods would be entangled or attacked or just stomp on over would need some consideration. An argument could be made for either one.
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Post by hardlec on Sept 13, 2016 2:09:34 GMT
Several strands of Edison Wire, wired in parallel, would definitely bother drones and lobos. Otherwise we might put cones on the poles, like are used to keep squirrels out of birdfeeders.
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Post by morbius on Sept 13, 2016 6:02:03 GMT
There are also the Conqueror Martian Fences that look really great. I was thinking of looking at various hobby store and other outlets for similar 'glowing' pieces to use as wires. Also am examining those bright pipe cleaners in the craft section - all a crackle with energy lol. What about whipper snipper cord? Usually available in bright green or red. Craig
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Post by morbius on Sept 13, 2016 6:04:20 GMT
Forgive my ignorance, I am looking at using skewers to make power poles and Edison wires. That lengths/height do people here recommend? Thanks, Craig I didn't have a standard fixed measurement other than the various tripods cannot step over it and human infantry and smaller vehicles and pass underneath. But then you can make any which way in the sense it's a unique terrain marker with establishes rules and less "What you see is what you get". Mike, Thank makes sense. I've got a Mark IV Command Tank on the way, I'll figure out a height that works well with that vs the Martians. Maybe the tank can't go under the wires. No big deal. Craig
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Post by mikedski on Sept 13, 2016 9:34:21 GMT
I didn't have a standard fixed measurement other than the various tripods cannot step over it and human infantry and smaller vehicles and pass underneath. But then you can make any which way in the sense it's a unique terrain marker with establishes rules and less "What you see is what you get". Mike, Thank makes sense. I've got a Mark IV Command Tank on the way, I'll figure out a height that works well with that vs the Martians. Maybe the tank can't go under the wires. No big deal. Craig I think Terrance has the right idea for simple and appealing table top wires.
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Post by madmorgan on Sept 13, 2016 9:39:54 GMT
As for the low ground wires, another possibility is to electrify barbed wire. The advantage to that is that there are several commercially available lines for those of us less gifted modelers and Paper Terrain has some nice batches of those as well (as part of their fortification line). As you just 'declare' them electrified, you still have those items for use in other historical games as well. Several separated rows of electric barbed wire will definitely have an impact on any Martian infantry as even the drones could get caught up in them. It does bring to mind just how agile the drone is. This has to do with how good the 'comm' link is and how good the controller is. Just a query about this? Thoughts?
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Post by boxholder on Sept 13, 2016 12:20:13 GMT
My first thought was electrified barbed wire, but I was not certain about the effect of it being in contact with the ground. It appears that the logic for the Edison wires is an insulated conductor wire with the earth serving as the other contact to complete the circuit. So they need to be separated under this assumption.
Of course, this is a game world, so we could postulate some kind of a low, insulated support underneath the wire. Perhaps the stakes that hold the wire in place could be insulated and hold the wire just off the ground.
Electrification could make barbed wire a real threat to drones and help offset the unrestrained use of the things. If the elevated wires have enough punch to affect a tripod, drones should get toasted by contact with the barbed wire.
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Post by hardlec on Sept 13, 2016 13:19:23 GMT
"Real" electrified barbed wire exists today as does "hot wire" fencing. Wooden fence posts typically keep it off the ground. Bulls and some horses are kept safe by agricultural electric fences. If realism if your objective, concertina wire is more of an anachronism than having a three or four strand barbed wire fence flowing with enough juice to fry a pack of wolves. Modern agricultural electric fences are no longer lethal, but they once were.
IRL electric fences can be low enough to keep out alligators, always a problem in Florida. Disney World just recently had to build alligator proof fences.
I have found building fences out of wooden coffee stir sticks and adding wire works pretty well, without the bird's nest of wire that results from trying to transport coils of wire.
Scott's wire is the easiest to build and transport.
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Post by boxholder on Sept 13, 2016 14:55:25 GMT
All true. Especially for single strand or few strands of wire. Having engaged modern fencing, I am very happy that it is designed to just sting.
I was thinking more of a concertina type of wire entanglement with the addition of electricity. Getting loose from that offers a lot of pain and time for the juice to flow.
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Post by madmorgan on Sept 14, 2016 9:11:59 GMT
Yes indeed! "more power to him, Big Bute'"...
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Post by morbius on Sept 14, 2016 21:06:25 GMT
I am looking at building hedgehogs to run multiple strands of wire along them. and probably power them from a generator in a bunker in my trenches. Drones might be sent in to scout out the generator and destroy it so that lobotons can be deployed.
Just a thought.
Craig
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Post by madmorgan on Sept 15, 2016 13:01:09 GMT
Another thought for a battle!
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Post by boxholder on Sept 17, 2016 11:45:39 GMT
Meanwhile, the machine guns covering the generator bunker chop up the lobos.
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Post by hardlec on Sept 17, 2016 12:16:40 GMT
The WWII hedgehogs had notches to accommodate wire. The ones on the Normandy beaches did not have wire because salt water rusts barbed wire pretty fast. Copper or aluminum wire is less vulnerable to rust.
I have some .125 inch dowel rod somewhere. I think I'll put together a few hedgehogs made of .125 dowel with the "legs" 2 inches long. In scale I have foot-thick telephone poles about 17 feet long. With Edison Wire, they should be obstacles to Tripods, drones, lobos, cowvalry and wild pigeons. Well, pigeons not so much.
I have avoided wood hedgehogs. Foot thick creosote soaked "telephone" poles are plenty fire resistant. Bugs hate creosote. Martians will learn to hate it as well.
For aesthetic reasons, should I add insulators?
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