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Post by madmorgan on Apr 12, 2016 12:58:29 GMT
The final corrections attempt. This week we'll look at page 133 to 162 inclusive and the errata pdfs for those pages. Final corrections will be next Wednesday the 20th. Please post your corrections by then. Thank you.
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Post by terrance on Apr 13, 2016 20:17:12 GMT
Page 136; as mentioned on the forum before, British infantry should be gas proof.
Page 140; Coil gun for Imperial tank wrong in the book but corrected in the errata.
Page 142 Cardigan carrier wrong in the book but corrected in the errata.
Page 142; Lloyd command carrier cost; beating a dead horse  ; cost 90 or 125? Errata is not clear.
Page 144; Tommy tank. The main gun is replaced by a British gun, but is it still a 4 inch gun for stats? |
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Post by loyalist on Apr 13, 2016 22:40:02 GMT
Whatever the caliber of the Tommy Tank gun it's assumed to be superior in some way to the American 4", or why bother using it? However, the tank has the same stats as the regular Mk II. Maybe the gun is made of alloy or improved in such a way as to make it smaller but with the same firepower.
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Post by mikedski on Apr 14, 2016 1:07:13 GMT
Whatever the caliber of the Tommy Tank gun it's assumed to be superior in some way to the American 4", or why bother using it? However, the tank has the same stats as the regular Mk II. Maybe the gun is made of alloy or improved in such a way as to make it smaller but with the same firepower. I thought maybe it carried that quick firing two pounder ROF2, 20 inch range?) and had radios. |
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Post by loyalist on Apr 14, 2016 2:17:40 GMT
The gun looks like the same casting used on on the Mono-tanks, but the only difference between the regular MK II and the Tommy Tank BEF version is the appearance of the gun and not having a protruding driver's cupola. Same weapon stats.
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Post by madmorgan on Apr 14, 2016 8:49:01 GMT
yeah, I've always felt that AD let us down on the 'Tommy' - its really not much to look at different from the USA MkII. Definately due for a 'change' or 'optional' rule. No radio indicated on the model. I will purpose a change for the stats to reflect some differnce. The gun has to be some better, perhaps a +3Pow due to the combination of special alloy on the gun and 'tipped' shells with Martian metal. Maybe its a 'quick firing' 4" gun with a RoF of 2, but still maintaining the 4" stats. The Brits do tend to go into rapid fire tech (ref Monotank, Kitchener). Thoughts?
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Post by mikedski on Apr 14, 2016 12:23:47 GMT
I thought the tommy tank was a US export model to Anglo allies such as Canada. Different gun only for ease of logistics. I would think the QF 2 pounder at ROF 2/+2 would be a substantial difference. Represents an imperfect solution to meet a need for the BEF and Canada through lend-lease. Not all BEF kit has to be high speed given the British are stretched pretty thin fighting a World War.
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Post by loyalist on Apr 14, 2016 12:58:27 GMT
My impression was that the Tommy tank was a US produced tank but the BEF brought their own gun (presumably superior in some way - which was not explained) and retrofitted it. Most of the Tommy Tanks were said to belong to the BEF but the Canadians are described as having a few and wanting more.
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Post by terrance on Apr 14, 2016 17:27:50 GMT
The "Tommy" tank is briefly covered on page 144. As was said it is a Mk II with a British gun and no driver's cupola. I was thinking radios but a check of the pictures in the rule book shows no antenna. And I note that of the armored cars the Spector has an antenna and the description mentions radio, Defiant has no antenna and no mention of radio is made in the description. So I guess that means no radios for the Tommy tank.
For guns I kind of like mikedski's suggestion of the 2 pound quick fire gun.
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Post by loyalist on Apr 14, 2016 17:54:11 GMT
Having built a dozen armoured cars recently I can confirm that the Spector lacks a visible antenna but is said to be radio-equipped, and the Defiant has the same type of radio antenna on its turret as an Imperial tank model but is not described as having a radio. However, the rule book says the Defiant is a reconnaissance vehicle. The model has an antenna and is a recon vehicle so should be assumed to have a radio.
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Post by mikedski on Apr 15, 2016 1:07:38 GMT
I think only assault infantry on page 137 should be gas proof.
Vehicle HMGs can fire concurrent with main gun weapons.
page: 141 Mono tanks should roll INDIVIDUALLY for falling over if move greater than 6 inches IN DIFFICULT TERRAIN. special rule: infantry movement
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Post by loyalist on Apr 15, 2016 2:28:46 GMT
I agree with your recommendations. The Mono-tank movement rule has to be changed. As it stands there is little point in moving more than 6" with a 50% chance of the entire unit falling over and being unable to move for a turn. If no individual testing, I'd support the entire unit falling but only on an 8+ roll in difficult terrain.
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Post by madmorgan on Apr 15, 2016 9:37:02 GMT
Hmm good call on the Monotank guys. Also like the concurrent fire for HMGs, makes no sense they can't. Finally, mike, why not Brit Heavys being gasproof as well?? One feature of the entire BEF is the use of radios for comms. I would have to insist that this is a feature of all the vehicles and units. Good points folks.
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; cost 90 or 125? Errata is not clear.
