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Post by lcpl210 on Mar 25, 2016 10:56:46 GMT
I'm reading Scott Washburn's book again and it got me to thinking about adding a Horse Cavalry unit to my collection similar to the 5th Cav mentioned in the book. So I have a couple of questions, 1. Where is a good source for early 1900's era American cavalry troopers on horseback? 2. How many should I get for one unit? 3. History question here, were the cavalry uniforms of the time still the blue coats, or had they moved to the kaki colored? I'm hoping their still the blue coats because I would love to paint up some Cav troopers like you would see in the old westerns.
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Post by madmorgan on Mar 25, 2016 11:10:25 GMT
For my limited WW1 US cavalry figures, I use Eurekas U.S. Cavalry 1941 figures. They come in both mounted and dismounted models, including a horse holder. Unfortunately, they're strictly dismounted infantry with no mgs, etc. but they wear the 'tin helmet' of the period, except for the officer figure, who has a 'marine'style hat (both mounted and dismounted version). He also has a binocular case on his front. They all lack any gasmasks, but a little greenstuff sculpt would fix that. If I were you I'd wait for S2Gs USA gasmasked cavalry to come out (at the casting stage, available soon). Both the men And the horses have gasmasks!
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Post by madmorgan on Mar 25, 2016 11:37:48 GMT
As far as the unit size & color, the above Eureka figures should be the same color as your standard infantry units. However, there is no reason why you couldn't have militia cavalry that were the older style uniform with the kepi - they would come from anywhere except Texas of coarse! The Texans would have floppy hats and confederate style uniforms. In fact, they'd be Texas regulars, as all the units of Texas are part of their own Texan army (being 'cutoff' etc.). Old Glory makes a nice range of both kepi & flop hat troopers and even has a nice shotgun armed confederate pack (see 15ACW-051 thru -059). I also like the Texas War of Independence 15TRT-106 and the Mounted Kentucky Volunteers 15WAT-113. These are all 18mm scale and come in packs of 15 figures for troopers & 16 figures for command, except for -059 (1st Virginia) which is a single unit of 15(command & 11 troopers). I'd go for 15 figure units, being 3 elements as shown in the USA stats. You could also opt for the AQ idea of 6 figures per unit like the Rough Rider squads. Not sure which you'd prefer. I like the bigger units myself.
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Post by acefromearth on Apr 20, 2016 9:03:07 GMT
This reminds me to dig out my old Osprey book on the US cavalry, if I can remember where I lost it to storage. Doubly shameful is I served as a cavalryman, and yet cannot remember the state of cavalry equipment circa WWI. I am fairly certain they were dressed similar to the rest of the Army, however with specialized riding boots and pants. The book "Recon Scout" was written be a man who lived through that transition, cutting his teeth as a horseback scout and serving in WWII as a Jeep-mounted cavalryman.
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Post by madmorgan on Apr 21, 2016 9:24:15 GMT
I did research on the cavalry units of the period - see my Thread on same amoungst the USA and General tabs. My arguement at that time was that the use of 6 man 'squads' was silly in the face of the IRL cavalry of the period - the Cavarly, at least in early war, was a seperate and vivid arm with its own support units and structure. AQs is okay for cost purposes and maybe even more correct late war. The Texans pdf gives a better look at a 3 element/15 man base squad and is my model for the Old Glory built units. A little glue with the spare sprue machineguns with the tank sets and you could have HMGs on packhorses with the main body for HMG squads. Just a lot of possibility.
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Post by FalconKPD on Mar 1, 2018 19:40:27 GMT
I'm reading Scott Washburn's book again and it got me to thinking about adding a Horse Cavalry unit to my collection similar to the 5th Cav mentioned in the book. So I have a couple of questions, 1. Where is a good source for early 1900's era American cavalry troopers on horseback? 2. How many should I get for one unit? 3. History question here, were the cavalry uniforms of the time still the blue coats, or had they moved to the kaki colored? I'm hoping their still the blue coats because I would love to paint up some Cav troopers like you would see in the old westerns. I'm late to the party, but by 1908, the US would have been moving to khaki and pea green colored gear. That being said, it might be cool to keep Dolfen himself in his old Span-Am era Blue Uniform.
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Post by boxholder on Mar 2, 2018 13:59:30 GMT
madmorgan:
I would tend not to be too concerned over the lack of molded-on gas masks for the figures. The vast majority of the time, troops would not need the masks. The troops only masked up when the threat showed up. For game purposes, just declare all the troops to have masked up when the shooting starts. Only the civilians would be outta luck.
Requiring the figures to be equipped exactly as the rules state heads us back toward the Games Workshop gameplay requirements. You could not use "counts as" troops or equipment. IF the model did not have it, you could not use it. This did nothing for game play; boosted their bottom line; and helped price their stuff out of reach.
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Post by hardlec on Mar 3, 2018 3:49:04 GMT
Slave to Gaming has some nice horse cavalry.
The options from ICG are nice as well.
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Post by scottwashburn on Mar 22, 2018 21:27:32 GMT
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Post by bigwally on Oct 1, 2020 4:51:02 GMT
Don’t forget to put the mask on your horses!
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