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Post by loyalist on Jan 7, 2016 23:02:50 GMT
FYI Ironclad Miniatures is having a 20% off sale this week on all stock. I've just ordered about 2m (>6') of 20mm trenches and field fortifications and a 28mm 'Faraday Electric Gun' that looks similar to the AD Tesla gun and is about the same size. The electric gun is on a carriage but could be mounted on a tank and the carriage converted into a generator trailer. The 20mm trenches are 35mm wide, so plenty of room for figures with bayonets, and 14mm deep. In comparison their 15mm trenches are only 10mm deep but wider for FoW bases. Before ordering I put infantry behind some FoW trenches (also 10mm high) and the trenches were only about waist high.
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Post by Quendil on Jan 8, 2016 8:23:16 GMT
FYI Ironclad Miniatures is having a 20% off sale this week on all stock. I've just ordered about 2m (>6') of 20mm trenches and field fortifications and a 28mm 'Faraday Electric Gun' that looks similar to the AD Tesla gun and is about the same size. The electric gun is on a carriage but could be mounted on a tank and the carriage converted into a generator trailer. The 20mm trenches are 35mm wide, so plenty of room for figures with bayonets, and 14mm deep. In comparison their 15mm trenches are only 10mm deep but wider for FoW bases. Before ordering I put infantry behind some FoW trenches (also 10mm high) and the trenches were only about waist high. Interested to see pictures of how get on making the Tesla gun
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Post by loyalist on Feb 4, 2016 17:05:52 GMT
With much anticipation I went to the UPS depot an hour ago to get the parcel of ~$200(Can) worth of 20mm trenches and field positions from Ironclad Miniatures. The box looked like it had been used in a football game and was maintaining its shape due to a layer of tape. That did not look promising and indeed most of the resin miniatures inside were smashed. None of the long trench sections were intact and only one heavy gun position was undamaged.
I have to keep the damaged stuff at my office until the claims investigators have a look at it but will take the few intact bits home and post photos of AQotMF models in them.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 5, 2016 9:40:39 GMT
Gads how horrible!! Why did such a thing happen!! How has the customer service discussion gone with the Ironclad folks (assuming you've called)?
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Post by loyalist on Feb 5, 2016 11:35:00 GMT
I've been in touch with John at Ironclad miniatures - he was appalled by the damage. It wasn't his fault; most pieces were individually bubble wrapped.
I put some AQotMF models in the few intact pieces last night. The 20mm scale antitank gun field positions are perfect for regular field guns and for IM's Faraday Electric gun. The field position command bunker is very nice and might accomodate the signal tower from the US command unit on the roof - I'll see when mine arrives. The open space inside the berm is a bit too small for a Lobototon-size command base or circular HMG base; command figures can by put inside on a smaller base or if the resin piece is mounted on a base glued to the base (However they won't be able to move away from the bunker unless there's a second set of figures on another base.)
The heavy guns (field and coil) are quite a bit taller than the top of the ATG position's berm and it's inner side is narrower than the gun's base so would need some trimming for the gun base to fit up against it. The trenches will be fine but because of the thickness of the infantry bases are just about abdomen deep - far better than 15mm trenches which are 4mm shallower and thigh high.
The coil gun base won't fit in the trench system's ATG position unless about 1/8" is trimmed off the width. If the gun is mounted directly on the ATG position it looks and fits fine but is still much higher than the berm. A Blue Moon British 60 pdr used as a heavy field gun would look fine in the position.
I'll take photos on the weekend.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 5, 2016 11:57:51 GMT
Appalled enough to reissue or some such?? I had only one piece broken from my 15mm trench order - as you say, all the pieces were bubblewrapped and the box looked like it'd been through a war. I considered myself lucky only one breakage. Thank you for the workup on the fitting of models to the 20mm system & I look forward to seeing your pics. As I usually mount the infantry on .8mm thick 20x20mm bases [ref: Litko] (as well as the hmg, mortars, other crewed infantry weapons) I don't have as much of a 'rise' issue for those. With the added 4m you mention vs 15mm, the 20mm should be a really better 'fit' for 18mm figures, they should come to about shoulder/head height on AQ figures. I'll still use the 15mm trench system as I do plan on going into a true 15mm human range soon (FoW & PeterPig mainly). You might try some rubber cement or temporary tack clay for the bunker command unit. With the rubber cement you could easily pull them off during a game and restick them to a standard base for movement. I tend to use rubber cement for any figures I plan on basing elsewhere; indeed figures on those 20x20mm Litko bases rubber cement onto the 'standard' 100mm bases very nicely. Here's looking forward to your pics. Now if I could just save enough for me own camera lol.
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Post by loyalist on Feb 8, 2016 0:40:25 GMT
I haven't taken photos yet but the Ironclad Miniatures 20mm Field Positions are very suitable for AQotMF. The Anti-tank gun position with sandbags on the rim is perfect for Field Battery guns. With the ends of the berms touching the guns are within the required 2" of each other. I'm putting the resin berms on 1.5mm thick bases to match the thickness of the Renedra bases. The barrels of the field guns will just clear the sandbags with the extra elevation.
My favorite piece is the Command Bunker. I was able to mount the semaphore signal tower that comes with the Command Unit on the roof of the bunker's shelter by drilling 4 holes for its legs and a fifth for the base of the ladder. In front of the bunker is a nearly square area enclosed by a sandbagged berm, with plenty of room for the command team. It's shoulder high. The resin piece doesn't have a bottom for the area inside the berm but I mounted it and the figures on a sheet of 1.5mm thick styrene, which adds some protection - it's more resistant to chipping than the thin edges of the bunker casting.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 8, 2016 12:49:08 GMT
Excellent description and modeling ideas that. That seems to be almost up to my level of modeling lol. btw, how did they resolve your hugely damamged shipment (reshipped, payment, credit, etc??).
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Post by loyalist on Feb 8, 2016 13:57:41 GMT
UPS has done nothing yet. Someone is supposed to come to my office, which is 5 min. from their depot, to inspect the damaged items but no one has contacted me yet. If I put all of the damaged pieces on sheet styrene bases they can be glued back together with CA and gaps where small chips broke off can be filled with resin, but that's a few hours work. Don't see why I should have to do it. The seller said he won't use UPS again.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 8, 2016 21:36:50 GMT
Hmmmm, but nothing else from seller on replacements. I only have a single piece damanged, so no big thing - but, you've been mauled it seems. Hope you get some satisfaction from UPS soon.
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Post by loyalist on Feb 15, 2016 14:57:30 GMT
I've made calls to UPS call-center people in Montreal, who basically knew nothing about what would be done but wouldn't give me the number of anyone at the local depot. Then there was a visit to my office from a driver, not a claims inspector as I was told to expect, who wanted to take the damaged items away, yet was not instructed to get any information about them, did not know what would be done with them, and declined to give me a phone number to talk to anyone with authority, saying I had to call the call center. I did not turn the damaged trenches over to him as there was no apparent reason to do so. I then received an email from John at Ironclad Miniatures, who said he'd paid insurance on the order and would try to get repayment in the UK after I sent him photos of the broken items.
Having given up on UPS I photographed the damaged box and items, then spent several hours last night gluing the broken resin trenches back together and onto 1.5mm thick styrene bases. Fortunately all but two breaks were clean and some green stuff will take care of the others. Now I'll have to spend a few more hours trimming the styrene and contouring it to the resin items. I'm placing another order with Ironclad for a few more resin items and more Faraday electric guns but have instructed John to ship the order by Royal Mail this time. Some of the 20mm IM products will work very well with AQotMF.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 16, 2016 11:10:32 GMT
I do like Ironclad alot. Not sure if he carries the trenches, but there is a local USA dealer how is at the HMGS conventions that sells Ironclad. Really nice fellow, it might be an alternative for you, specify Fed-Ex shipments perhaps. www.foxminiatures.com His name is Jim Fox and has an email address of fox@foxminiatures.com and phone number (513) 720-9828. Royal Mail sounds secure alright. Cheers and good hunting. Sound of fox horns and hounds in my head - must focus!! More coffee.
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Post by loyalist on Feb 18, 2016 0:14:17 GMT
Here's the Ironclad Miniatures 20mm Field Position Command Bunker with AD command unit and signal tower installed, next to the AD Kickstarter command unit's ruined building. The area inside the berm had no 'floor' so I ca glued the piece on a 1.5mm thick styrene base (same thickness as Renedra bases), applied Tamiya putty (grey stuff), then filed and sanded the edges to match the resin piece. Here's an Ironclad 20mm ATG position, also glued to a 1.5mm thick styrene base to match the artillery element's Renedra base thickness. Black primed ATG position in background. Note the wheels of the field gun are on 1.0mm thick styrene strips (same thickness as the crews' bases). Liquitex natural sand medium was applied around the figure bases and given a heavy dusting of Woodland Scenics fine railway ballast.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 18, 2016 2:37:23 GMT
Really cool.
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Post by zenth93 on Feb 22, 2016 2:14:23 GMT
funny I came here to ask what would be good trenches to get and you guys answered it for me! those 20 mm trenches from Ironclad look really good. Ill have to buy there trench set!
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