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Post by Pz3 on Feb 13, 2016 3:19:27 GMT
Something else we really need for AQotMF is a turret for the non-Monitor version of the Mk IV tank. Although the standard Mk IV is listed in the rulebook, no model with that turret was ever available on the retail market. At a pinch a "Patton"-type Mk IV turret could be used but those Mk IV tanks were only available through the Kickstarter and are almost impossible to obtain.
Have been meaning to finish off a MkIV standard turret for quite awhile now. I need a few to change out with my Monitors. Had a bit of idle time so I finished the prototype which is a combo of the Patton one and the MkIV Monitor and then made a few variations for loyalist to look at. Below is the result before detailing. Also whipped up a standard naval turret, same as the Ironclad 5" turret.
@ loyalist - If of interest pick which ones you like and I'll make them. Doesn't have to be just one turret as they are no trouble. If you want a different design let me know, happy to play around.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 13, 2016 3:40:26 GMT
I agree hardly with the MkIV5 as I called it (5" gun), which really was a pretty good overall machine, without the stand & shoot requirement of the 7". That +3Pow is a nice punch vs standard Assault and other tripods.
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Post by loyalist on Feb 13, 2016 4:07:33 GMT
Nice variety of options Pz3! I'm deciding between the two on the right for my naval monitor (don't like the Ironclad style turrets as much), and for static heavy gun turrets.
After looking at the rule book again I found the standard Mk IV and Patton's tank have the same stats and armament so the second turret from the left would be suitable to exchange with the Monitors' turrets and represent either. I'll need 3 of those.
One surprising thing I noticed when assembling a Mk IV Monitor this evening is that as designed the model's turret has no ability to elevate or depress the gun! The Patton turret has a raised area that could represent an armoured glacis around an elevating barrel. Looks like your designs might incorporate something like that except on the Ironclad type turret. (I assume there's no breach sticking out the back of the turrets with a 5" gun.)
I'll let you know how many of which designs I need tomorrow. How much per turret? Do you use a printer?
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Post by Pz3 on Feb 13, 2016 8:40:59 GMT
@ Loyalist
Angled what I call the standard MkIV turret so you can see that nothing is poking out its rear. Added two more turrets which are more naval like. The end one on the right has a domed roof. Also made the glacis stand out a bit more to give the impression that it can be elevated or be so depressed. Any other features like hatches, exhaust fans, periscope housing, etc. can be added, just ask. Importantly what size ? Currently scaled the same size at the monitor/Ironclad. While in digital form I don't mind changing them.
Once happy, I print the item out to check that all is well. If I need more than a few I just mold them up and either use a lightweight polyester mix, for big items, or polyurethane for small items. As to cost, wouldn't have a clue. I'll make up the Mk IV turret and see what that works out to be. I do this for fun not to make my fortune.
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Post by mikedski on Feb 13, 2016 9:53:03 GMT
I would like to have some for static fortifications or rail car mounted.
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Post by madmorgan on Feb 13, 2016 11:43:47 GMT
Dabbling into the static defenses of the Martians would be nice as well. LOL sounds like you might have a (4th?) career.
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Post by Pz3 on Feb 13, 2016 13:16:32 GMT
I would like to have some for static fortifications or rail car mounted. If you think they are good enough, you are welcome. Let me know which ones, or something else, I'll finish them off and let you know.
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Post by loyalist on Feb 13, 2016 15:09:07 GMT
@ Loyalist
Angled what I call the standard MkIV turret so you can see that nothing is poking out its rear. Added two more turrets which are more naval like. The end one on the right has a domed roof. Also made the glacis stand out a bit more to give the impression that it can be elevated or be so depressed. Any other features like hatches, exhaust fans, periscope housing, etc. can be added, just ask. Importantly what size ? Currently scaled the same size at the monitor/Ironclad. While in digital form I don't mind changing them.
Once happy, I print the item out to check that all is well. If I need more than a few I just mold them up and either use a lightweight polyester mix, for big items, or polyurethane for small items. As to cost, wouldn't have a clue. I'll make up the Mk IV turret and see what that works out to be. I do this for fun not to make my fortune.
I really like the new naval one on the far right. Some plate lines/rivets like the Ironclad turret's would be good, plus a pair of small periscope/sight housings near the front of the roof to either side of the gun, and an access door at the rear of the turret (not on the roof) - they were usually rectangular with rounded corners or with semicircular ends in the RN. If you google Royal Navy 12" gun turret images on the web you'll see examples of the roof fittings on the WWI era, including periscope hoods. I would need the naval turrets to be 50mm in diameter for use as 6" guns on the M29 Class monitors. With the addition of a cupola like the one on the middle turret in the first set of images the naval turrets would be great as land based heavy artillery. What I'd like to order would be 3 Mk IV turrets, 2 of your new design of naval turret and two of those with a cupola on top. Many thanks!!!
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Post by mikedski on Feb 13, 2016 15:48:08 GMT
I would like to have some for static fortifications or rail car mounted. If you think they are good enough, you are welcome. Let me know which ones, or something else, I'll finish them off and let you know.
Three of those on the far left with cupola and HMG like housings. Could you fit the steam tank HMG or 4 inch gun sponsons in the housings on the turret top?
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Post by David N.Tanner 07011959 on Feb 16, 2016 16:35:53 GMT
I like the one on the far right and the two on the far left. Do you sell these and if so where?
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Post by Pz3 on Feb 17, 2016 12:30:45 GMT
Updated the turrets to match the requests. Just fiddling with the rivet size, but basically ready to go. Have structured the models so that I can resize, add or strip bits as desired.
Top row, Left two - MkIV Standard 5" turrets - base diameter 34mm/1 3/8", accepts plastic turrets Top row, Right two - Static defence 5" turrets - base diameter 34mm/1 3/8"
Bottom row - Left 3 are variations for naval ships, 6" gun - right one shows the US style access hatch (RN use rounded) Base diameter 50mm/2"
As there is some interest, I'll cast some of these up, work out my costs and offer them to the forum.
After this I want to finish off my version of Goliath and as I really dislike the BEF tracked chassis I received, (they were the same for all model types), I am making some new ones. I have already done up the base hull, just need to do the running gear. Probably do a turret or two afterwards.
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Post by loyalist on Feb 17, 2016 14:30:32 GMT
Those look great Pz3! I'm revising my requests: 4 naval turrets (2nd from left with periscopes on the roof - US door is fine, no need to do a different Royal Navy version); 3 Mk IV turrets (the one on the left with the lower cupola); 1 static defence turret - the one second from the right.
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Post by David N.Tanner 07011959 on Feb 17, 2016 15:34:13 GMT
Updated the turrets to match the requests. Just fiddling with the rivet size, but basically ready to go. Have structured the models so that I can resize, add or strip bits as desired.
Top row, Left two - MkIV Standard 5" turrets - base diameter 34mm/1 3/8", accepts plastic turrets Top row, Right two - Static defence 5" turrets - base diameter 34mm/1 3/8"
Bottom row - Left 3 are variations for naval ships, 6" gun - right one shows the US style access hatch (RN use rounded) Base diameter 50mm/2"
As there is some interest, I'll cast some of these up, work out my costs and offer them to the forum.
After this I want to finish off my version of Goliath and as I really dislike the BEF tracked chassis I received, (they were the same for all model types), I am making some new ones. I have already done up the base hull, just need to do the running gear. Probably do a turret or two afterwards.
The one with the rangefinders on the top, second for the left, is great.
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Post by loyalist on Feb 17, 2016 15:51:47 GMT
I dislike the tracks for the BEF tanks and carriers too. I cast 8 wheels from Defiants/Mono-tanks in resin with the intention of making a Christie type chassis, but 4 wheels with tracks around them were going to be too tight a fit, unless the inward inclined rear fender was replaced or the tracks were mounted lower on the hull; in the latter mock-up the wheels looked too small. Inter-leaving 5 larger diameter wheels as on the Tiger or Panther tanks would look better but I couldn't find wheels of suitable size.
My solution was going to be to hide the original tracks with shurzen type side plates down to the tops of the 3 bogies, but if you can make better looking tracks I'll buy a few sets. So far I've only built the Lloyd carrier and will hold off on the Imperial and Wicket tanks until I can buy your replacement tracks.
I don't understand why AD didn't stick with the better looking tracks with 4 bogies shown in the rule book and KS images of BEF tanks.
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Post by Quendil on Feb 17, 2016 16:27:51 GMT
Very Nice
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