gunnyhighway
Scout Tripod
Just because your from Mars doesn't mean we can take warm showers in the wee hours of the morning...
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Post by gunnyhighway on Oct 3, 2018 23:34:28 GMT
Fellow AQotMF'ers: I have to confess as stated in the title of the thread, something about the game has stuck in my Craw for quite a while, well since the beginning really. It's really just a pet peeve but I got a whole pet cage full of 'em, just not concerning AQotMF. My question is why are the infantry always mounted on the long thin popsicle like bases. I know we can pine on endlessly about "frontages" and blah, blah , blah but visually I have a case of the occasional dry heaves when I have them on the gaming table. One gaming buddy asked me  if I had an over abundance of popsicle sticks squirrelled away somewhere......anyhoo, is it because at first tripods couldn't step over infantry in the old original rules and this is a leftover? Just curious, looking forward to your answers! Just hope some Bloke at Renedra just didn't stroke out seeing this thread and drop his tea and cookies......  Respectfully, Gunny P.S. Please don't whine out about historical frontages and so forth as A) I have the attention span of a chimp; B) We're fighting frickin' Martians on earth in 1908ish..... |
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Post by scottwashburn on Oct 4, 2018 1:33:37 GMT
I hear you. I don't like 'em either. For one thing, I had to make my PaperTerrain houses enormous so that a stand could fit inside. I'm still using the long bases, but I keep thinking about using different ones. A 2nd edition set of rules should take a close look at this.
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gunnyhighway
Scout Tripod
Just because your from Mars doesn't mean we can take warm showers in the wee hours of the morning...
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Post by gunnyhighway on Oct 4, 2018 2:56:35 GMT
viva la revulutioun!
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Post by David N.Tanner 07011959 on Oct 4, 2018 4:03:33 GMT
I never used them. I use Flames of War bases.
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Post by Quendil on Oct 4, 2018 7:01:31 GMT
What I like about them is I can base the infantry and paint them on the base which I can't do with the flames of war size. But they do look better on the FOW bases
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Post by boxholder on Oct 4, 2018 12:23:22 GMT
I agree with Quendil on the probable rationale. They are easier to paint on linear bases. Otherwise, you have to paint them on one base and move to another for play. More chance to damage a figure. And more work (I hold a merit badge for LAZY ASS).
You are correct that nothing in AQMF rules requires the linear bases, so use what pleases you. I have broken down some of mine into a 2 figure + a 3 figure base. Set them up side-by-side (linear) or bunch them up, whichever fits the terrain or tactical need.
It is necessary to decide how to handle casualties for the split elements. Is a hit on either sub-element the same as a hit anywhere on the linear (AQMF standard)? Or is only the sub-element only DX? The latter is more complex because you must add rules and records for changing combat strength which goes against the speedy, simple play for AQMF.
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Post by mikedski on Oct 4, 2018 22:53:54 GMT
I like the long bases for US troops originally because it was different from Flames of War. I think it reflects a conscript army.
I put my BEF on FOW bases to reflect a different style of tactics and leadership.
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Post by digid on Oct 5, 2018 2:43:47 GMT
I put some on different bases, but the long bases make it possible for a tripod using its sweep to only hit 2 instead of all 3. That is kind of what we found when playing with different size bases. That would be the only reason that I can think of.
Dale
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gunnyhighway
Scout Tripod
Just because your from Mars doesn't mean we can take warm showers in the wee hours of the morning...
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Post by gunnyhighway on Oct 5, 2018 4:07:40 GMT
@ digid:
Aha! Very good point! hadn't thought of that! Nerfing the sweep is quite a point to ponder. Thanks to everyone who has contributed.....
Respectfully,
Gunny
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Post by madmorgan on Oct 5, 2018 15:32:06 GMT
Hey wait - you forgot me ("everyone"). I long ago started mounting all my Infantry and some of my other elements on 20 x 20 mm Litto .8mm plywood bases. They're cheap and easier to flock, etc. If you want to keep fumble fingers folk from picking up the figure, use the really think bases they sell. Also, they sell 40 x 20 mm bases (cavalry, 2 infantry to a stand) and 60 x 20 mm bases (3 infantry to a stand). I even mount my HMG elements on these (1 x 40/20, 1 x 20/20 - place next to in a trench, treeline, etc. - as long as the 20mm is touching the 40mm you have a 40mm area to hit for various incoming. I also got a couple of Gothic Space firing arcs from them - work great on angles from the tanks with sides guns. Note that Renedra also makes sprues with various sized bases, if you must use the more expensive plastic stuff. Additionally, this allows easier placement inside those great Paper Terrain and any other buildings you use for your table - as well as train cars, boats, etc.
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gunnyhighway
Scout Tripod
Just because your from Mars doesn't mean we can take warm showers in the wee hours of the morning...
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Post by gunnyhighway on Oct 5, 2018 15:57:00 GMT
@ M Squared:
Sorry old chap, got boggled down in the discussion. Wouldn't be very smart of me to exclude the man behind the curtain, so to speak. Well, I think the general consensus is smaller bases have been accepted. My only hesitation is that I would now have to rebase everything to a smaller base. I am getting ready to do my Tennessee militia, so may start with that and work backwards. Wish I had gone with my instincts and based the Marines that way but I didn't. Ces a la Guerre! But having said that digid's point about sweeping makes me hesitate a little....As suggested, a 2nd Edition change?
Respectfully,
Gunny
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Post by scottwashburn on Oct 5, 2018 16:45:17 GMT
If I ever do go to smaller bases, I will just do as Boxholder has done: cut the existing bases into a 3-figure base and a 2-figure base. The units still fires with 3 shots as before. When the unit loses a 'stand' just take off one of each. Easy.
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Post by boxholder on Oct 5, 2018 22:03:01 GMT
Gunny, you can always rework the existing bases. Just score deeply between the figures with a good sharp Xaxto. Hold along the score line with needle nose pliers and snap. A touch of sandpaper and a tad of touch-up.
Takes longer to write it than to do it.
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Post by mikedski on Oct 7, 2018 3:15:47 GMT
I hear you. I don't like 'em either. For one thing, I had to make my PaperTerrain houses enormous so that a stand could fit inside. I'm still using the long bases, but I keep thinking about using different ones. A 2nd edition set of rules should take a close look at this. I think your buildings are perfect for scale and realism. |
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Post by slave2gaming on Oct 7, 2018 11:34:08 GMT
I originally started with the long bases with 5 figures per base, but have moved away from the 100mm frontage to a 60mm frontage with only 3 figures per base.
I run them as a unit if 5 stands (15 figures for US) and 2 stands of three + 2 stands of 2 for British (or just push the British out to 15 figures on 5 stands)
I do it for aesthetic's, I prefer the larger unit look but still play them the same
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if I had an over abundance of popsicle sticks squirrelled away somewhere......anyhoo, is it because at first tripods couldn't step over infantry in the old original rules and this is a leftover? Just curious, looking forward to your answers! Just hope some Bloke at Renedra just didn't stroke out seeing this thread and drop his tea and cookies...... 
