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Post by hardlec on Oct 11, 2017 16:20:20 GMT
Martian redoubts started as enhancements about the cylinders after they landed.
The cylinders have landed and the Martians are expanding, creating new redoubts without the center focus of a downed cylinder.
I am looking for a ball or similar object to serve as a base, and then lay paper mache over this to make a dome. There are fences and heat-ray turrets available.
What else would there be in a martian redoubt? Specifically, how do the martians get in and out of their buildings? The cylinder has a large Iris Door, and the Harvester and Gatherer have iris doors as well. The Cylinder and tripods have doors on the top of the structures. Would there be doors on the top/ceiling of their domes, on the side of the walls, or would the doors be on the ground allowing tripods to raise/lower from an underground warehouse?
I would have the doors on the ground. Making a terrain bit a simple matter of printing an Iris door to sent flat on the table.
Things are happening where the Martians are going to find themselvs on the Defensive.
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Post by Quendil on Oct 11, 2017 18:21:25 GMT
Interested to see what you come up with. I like the idea of doors in the ground for the machines to come up from. May the odd raised entrance for martians or slaves
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Post by easye on Oct 11, 2017 19:00:15 GMT
I see it being on the side of a hill or mound with an Iris door. The Tripods walk up a ramp from an undergorung hangar and deploy out the side of the hill through the Iris door.
Does that make any sense?
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Post by scarapis on Oct 12, 2017 4:41:38 GMT
There is an aerial pic of a redoubt in the hard cover book which might give you ideas.
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Post by hardlec on Oct 13, 2017 17:05:43 GMT
The photo lacked certain key details, i.e. no doors are visible.
I'm pretty sure the dire note that no Martian redoubt has ever been taken or destroyed will change soon. I don't think the Martians will be able to keep the Midwest for long.
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Post by terrance on Oct 14, 2017 5:46:47 GMT
The Story Arc Campaign will end with a storming the redoubt scenario and will be played in November. It is based on the scenario in the hard back rule book so only the redoubt wall will be on the table. I almost have the building of it completed. So I won’t have any doors on the table. I like the idea of some sort of door flat on the ground leading to a tunnel, but considering the height of the tripods and a reasonable slope to the tunnel the door is going to have to be pretty big. If the tunnel slope is 45 degrees the door will have to be at least the height of a tripod. (Envision a diagram of a equilateral right triangle with the hypotenuse the ramp. The sides joining at 90 degrees are the same length so height of the tripod just clearing the edge as it starts to appear above ground equals the diameter of the door to cover the opening.)
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Post by boxholder on Oct 14, 2017 12:29:23 GMT
Good considerations on door size.
Although iris doors are sexy-looking, a normal type door or a roll-up might be more practical. Or perhaps a clamshell?
There is referenct in the books to a "loading position" for the tripods which implies that they lower to ground level. Asserting that they don't fully raise until on the surface might make the doors smaller.
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Post by terrance on Oct 16, 2017 21:07:35 GMT
Good considerations on door size. Although iris doors are sexy-looking, a normal type door or a roll-up might be more practical. Or perhaps a clamshell? There is referenct in the books to a "loading position" for the tripods which implies that they lower to ground level. Asserting that they don't fully raise until on the surface might make the doors smaller. Agreed. Iris doors are cool but they are not the best solution to every situation. I wonder if they can move in the loading position, but maybe they can sort of squat to half height or so and still move.
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Post by bilko991 on Oct 17, 2017 0:33:03 GMT
I've always envisioned an established martian base being mostly underground with only the enterence doors being above ground. I don't recall any references to human style above ground cities on Mars so I guess they live underground on Mars too. I see little beyond the defences being above ground, fences, weapons and cameras.
I like the iris doors. True it's less practical than other doors but it's suitably alien from what humans were using at the time.
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