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Post by madmorgan on Oct 28, 2016 12:33:43 GMT
Cool - I've already worked up both rockets and bazookas in my various weapons charts and even rocket mounting TX armored cars (Gila/Rattlesnake etc) so that will work. Currently I also do Katyuska-style rockets on the back of True North trucks as well as on the 'Uncovered' flivvers from IG. Got some on the riverine patrol boats as well (limited ammo on all of these). Should be easy to add to the mix as well. deathfromabove did some excellent rocket stuff as well
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Post by hardlec on Oct 28, 2016 17:04:49 GMT
I am very much in favor of rocket launchers, individual or small-crew operated weapons, and "multiple rocket launchers" especially for resistance and militia or volunteer forces.
Rocket launchers on the back of Model T's are a more likely "technical" than catapults on a steam tank chassis. Cool though they are, the Texas Tea Tossers are a bit too "orkish" for me.
There are also some interesting things that can be done combining motorcycles and rocket launchers. A tricycle motorcycle is a good platform for a 4 inch rocket launcher. Trikes could give a Troop or Squadron of Rough Riders some heavy support, which they could use. "Bazooka" was never an "official" military term. As Scott said, it came from a vaudeville performer who played what amounted to a horn mouthpiece attached to a piece of hose. Does the term fit the popular culture? I could happily agree. If anyone gets too snarky about "there weren't any Bazookas in 1910" well, there weren't any Martians, either....
Morgan has done a lot of legwork on how the rocket could fit in AQMF.
I've started re-reading Scott's first book. Lot's of stuff I missed the first time!
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Post by scottwashburn on Oct 28, 2016 17:26:35 GMT
Hardlec, your views parallel mine. The Tea Tosser is a bit too cute except for maybe a unique field modification which became legendary. Rockets are ideal for industry-poor Texas. One of the few manufacturing companies that existed at that time produced pipes for the new oil industry. I could see them modifying their machines to produce thin-walled metal tubes which could become rocket bodies. The rest of the production could be done in smaller workshops by semi-skilled labor. Of course quality control becomes a major problem. Perhaps Texas rockets blow up the launcher if they roll a 1 when trying to hit I'll have to think about the Bazooka name (and do some more research on Bob Burns). Glad you liked my book enough to re-read it! That's sort of the real test for a book: is it worth re-reading? I've suggested to my publisher that in Book 3 I add an appendix at the end listing all of the historical characters in the books.
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Post by madmorgan on Oct 28, 2016 17:36:49 GMT
Okay, I used Bazooka in my listings as it was easier to convey to the folks on the forum - I'm pretty sure everyone knows what one looks like. Look forward to a 'rename' of the thing for AQ. I'd think that the TX rockets (or any other for that matter) would only have a '1' disaster roll in the first few months of their use. Word about blowups would get back to engineering and production pretty quick. Btw, I reread you first book now a dozen times. Both for inspiration for the game and of coarse whilst setting up the two battles for us all to replay. Currently its being reread the 4th time by my stepson, between chapters of the tome size book on Game of Thrones. Good stuff!
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Post by David N.Tanner 07011959 on Oct 28, 2016 17:43:16 GMT
"Stovepipe" of course, but Wikipedia says Burns made his first "Bazooka" around 1903. I think just as in our time line both could be used.
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Post by madmorgan on Oct 28, 2016 18:04:43 GMT
I like 'stovepipe', sounds right for period and description. "... get three stovepipe crews up with the 2nd platoon for an assault on that tripod right away..."
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Post by hardlec on Oct 29, 2016 2:35:42 GMT
The "proof of concept" of the prototype rocket grenade projector actually was made out of a stovepipe. My music teacher actually saw Bob Burns, and was part of a "Bazooka team" in WWII. Burn's act featured the comedy of the time and some well played popular music. He covered hits of the time. I'm not sure if he made any recordings; a lot of Vaudevillian performers didn't. Vaudeville was huge in the "Oughts" and "Teens" in a way I'm sure many modern folks don't understand. Live entertainment was the only game in town for the preponderance of the population. Movies, radio and records were only available to a few. Burns created an act, which was very likely copied by lesser known performers.
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Post by hardlec on Oct 31, 2016 21:01:35 GMT
I think Stovepipe is a great name for a man-portible rocket launcher.
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Post by billf on Nov 1, 2016 0:47:51 GMT
I agree. Sounds way more like something 1914 ish.
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Post by madmorgan on Nov 1, 2016 2:21:08 GMT
I'm going back to my Infantry Weapons list in the sub board to add Stovepipe as the 'official' AQ name for the weapon. Thanks guys for interesting historical and game developed notions.
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Post by lcpl210 on Dec 6, 2016 3:47:01 GMT
I could see "stovepipe" very quickly fitting into a soldiers vernacular. And Scott I have read the first book at least three times by now, so I definitely has the pull for revisiting, at least with me.
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