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Post by loyalist on Aug 13, 2016 13:56:23 GMT
Being at a cottage in the woods for the last 6 weeks internet access has been limited and I missed the questions about the command tower until today. All of the hatches and doors are shaped from pieces of sheet styrene, with hinges from styrene rod. As posted before the searchlights are from 40K imperial guard Chimeras, bought from online bits stores.
The armour panels were scored on the sheet styrene with the back edge of an exacto blade along a metal ruler.
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Post by madmorgan on Sept 11, 2016 11:15:25 GMT
Can't wait to see what you do with all the component parts available now from Conqueror's new ironclad. Being able to get searchlights, 5" guns, etc. will be great for a fumble fingered modeler like me - I can only imagine what you'll do with them
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Post by morbius on Sept 26, 2016 20:12:39 GMT
I just finished carving planks into my trenches yesterday I have yet to add texture to the outside of the trenches before I start making about a thousand sandbags to do all the trenches I've made (about 8 ft). After that it'll be time to prime and paint them I might get sidetracked doing bunkers, workshops and a few other bits though. Craig
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Post by loyalist on Sept 30, 2016 13:20:13 GMT
Can't wait to see what you do with all the component parts available now from Conqueror's new ironclad. Being able to get searchlights, 5" guns, etc. will be great for a fumble fingered modeler like me - I can only imagine what you'll do with them I just had a look at their LIC searchlights after going through model ship sites and not finding anything quite the right size. I think they'll do for my AQ LIC, which will have splinter screens like the Conqueror LIC instead of railings (the metal railings that came with the AQ version were too messed up to use).
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Post by sputnik on Sept 30, 2016 14:50:05 GMT
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Post by Quendil on Sept 30, 2016 15:37:45 GMT
They look great , the next trenches I make will be forward facing only
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Post by morbius on Sept 30, 2016 17:41:05 GMT
Those trenches are marvellous!
Craig
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Post by morbius on Oct 1, 2016 9:05:39 GMT
I've progressed mine a little - been sandbagging like crazy with the rotten weather here and still being a tad under the weather myself... I've included some troops and the original Alien Dungeon gubbins for scale. Regards, Craig
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Post by madmorgan on Oct 1, 2016 12:40:01 GMT
Man two more great modelers. I think I really favor the 'hasty trench', one-sided version. You simply put a second line behind them & you have a 'full' trench with double the space inside. Or do as Craig and have a lot of room to start. First is more flexible and second larger area coverage. Didn't the rules have a set size for such 'terrain'? Page 153, Each field fortification covers an area roughly 6"x 6". It does go on to say you can have it in other terrain (why?). I suppose it implies a connection of 6" x 6" trenches.
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Post by loyalist on Oct 1, 2016 14:16:13 GMT
I've wondered about the 6" x 6" size for separate field fortifications. The trench length inside it would have to be 4" per side to hold the standard infantry base, allowing a trench wall thickness of only 1" between the trench and the edge of the FF base. I assume the entire interior would be open but even so only a mortar or a medium field gun base would fit in the center if the FF was also manned by infantry, and the field guns can't be deployed individually according the the present rules. A coil gun or anti-tripod gun on the standard 2" x 4" Renedra base would just fit within the trench walls on a 6 x 6" base.
On further thought only 2 sides of an entrenched field position measuring 6" x 6" (with a 4" x 4" trench position in the middle) can be manned with infantry elements against them, and they'd have to be on opposite sides. The ends of their bases will make the gap between them on the other 2 sides only 60mm (less than 2.5") at best, not considering bayonets that may extend past the base edge. If you lined the infantry elements up behind each other you could get 3 elements inside but two would be facing one way and one the other. I think the field fortification size should be enlarged to 8" x 8" to allow more flexibility about what will fit inside it and allow enough space on the edges for decent terrain modelling.
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Post by madmorgan on Oct 1, 2016 23:48:19 GMT
I've always wanted to make a standard size base of infantry smaller to allow easier placement in all the various terrain & buildings available for AQ. If you stick to the 100mm/4" base, you'll be forever trying to make thing 'fit' your terrain. I agree that a 8"x 8" would be better and indeed IG might wander into a different trench size in their 2nd edition rules. But, until then we face the problems you mention even without the round mg bases causing further problems. My solution is well documented - look forward to you solutions on this.
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Post by morbius on Oct 6, 2016 0:56:36 GMT
Here's how my the trench sizes have worked out for me so far. I used bases to determine widths, as well as a lot of advice on these forums to work out sizes. Not such a problem if you are just doing one side of the trench though Craig
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Post by loyalist on Oct 6, 2016 2:26:06 GMT
Your trenches look good with the primer on them. You must have a tremendous amount of patience and green stuff to make that many sandbags! I've been thinking of doing that for my 20mm scale trenches from Ironclad Miniatures in the UK. They're shallower than the AQ trenches though a slightly larger scale, and I'd like to increase the depth 2-3mm by adding sandbags. The thought of making hundreds of them has me using the trenches as hastily dug fortifications that aren't complete.
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Post by hardlec on Oct 6, 2016 3:37:41 GMT
What do you make sandbags out of? I've made many out of sculpy and similar polymer clay, but this gets expensive quickly. Likewise, making piles of dirt, in scale, gets pricey. I make the mounds out of paper machie, but covering with woodland scenics gets expensive.
I have a lot on my plate right now, but maybe I'll be able to try paper machie sandbags.
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Post by morbius on Oct 6, 2016 4:41:46 GMT
Loyalist, You'd be surprised how quickly you can make these with a glass of red, some good light and an audio book The primer and texture makes a big difference I must admit I was worried. All those sandbags have needed is 1/2 a packet of green stuff so far. Total cost on making these trenches so far is $22.95 Australian, including the spray primer and green stuff. Craig
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