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Post by Quendil on Nov 19, 2018 13:11:41 GMT
Great news the game will keep fighting on! If you're going to fiddle with the timeline please don't have the martians wipe out Australia like it is currently!! My suburb (it was a little town then lol) existed before the martian invasion and I want to fight martians with an Australian army in my suburb/town Yes I would like to see this, at least have some parts of the country holding out with the help of the Navy.
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Post by hardlec on Nov 19, 2018 21:22:18 GMT
I have only good wishes for ICG. Fare thee well, and I will probably buy tiny terrain and continue to shop at miniatures mart.
Please incorporate Scott's Fluff.
Please take advantage of the offers, mine included, to take AQMF to conventions for Demos. This game is so compelling it should generate sales by having it played in Public.
I am close (enough) To Gainesville, Jacksonville, Orlando and Sarasota, FL. to do demo games.
Bully! Bully! Bully!
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Post by Burt on Nov 21, 2018 21:35:21 GMT
I too wish them well. I wonder if I'll ever be able to get any of their wonderful Martian energy fences or custom bases again? Those energy fences are available in bins at Miniature Market and I think are marketed under their Tiny Terrain brand.
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Post by GySgtDave on Nov 21, 2018 22:53:59 GMT
Great news the game will keep fighting on! If you're going to fiddle with the timeline please don't have the martians wipe out Australia like it is currently!! My suburb (it was a little town then lol) existed before the martian invasion and I want to fight martians with an Australian army in my suburb/town Don't worry about Australia. My wife who is from Perth would never give me a moment of peace if I let Australia go down with a simple swipe of the pen.
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Post by scottwashburn on Nov 22, 2018 2:15:20 GMT
Oh dear...
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Post by bilko991 on Nov 22, 2018 10:58:32 GMT
Great news the game will keep fighting on! If you're going to fiddle with the timeline please don't have the martians wipe out Australia like it is currently!! My suburb (it was a little town then lol) existed before the martian invasion and I want to fight martians with an Australian army in my suburb/town Don't worry about Australia. My wife who is from Perth would never give me a moment of peace if I let Australia go down with a simple swipe of the pen. Great! That is good news, we can't let the martians take Australia without a fight!
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Post by madmorgan on Dec 4, 2018 12:21:15 GMT
Thanks gunny & box - I'll give a look at those. The only hang-up is making the 'pyramidal', but I'll figure out something else for those - probably something square like small balsa wood blocks or tinker toy wheels. The first I just glue the rods to; the second already has the slot for them. Advantage of the blocks is the ability to glue some sort of power pack to one for the energy production. We'll see.
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Post by riftsinger on Dec 7, 2018 11:46:03 GMT
well this is all interesting your going have to be very clear about being under new management when you go to kickstarter and even then i think you may run in to some drag due to the rep on kickstarter this game has , may i suggest a round of podcasts interviews before the start date to head some of that off ,for the uk i wound recommend the meeples and miniatures podcast meeples.wordpress.com/
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Post by gunnyhighway on Dec 8, 2018 0:08:34 GMT
riftsinger: I agree, especially the stores, their like elephants, they never forget. Gotta rub the communication stick pretty hard to get the word out. An all out Communication Blitz will be needed I'm afraid.... Respectfully, Gunny
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Post by boxholder on Dec 10, 2018 15:04:17 GMT
Well, since most retail stores evidently did not know about AQMF (except incidentally) the new guys are starting with a clean slate. When I asked the stores that i frequent about AQMF, all that I got was blank looks and crickets chriping.
Ironclad did not seem to pick up on the promotional aspect. Likely, their other lines were more profitable and they did not want to dilute their efforts. Similarly, Alien Dungeon made an error in not promoting the game (among other problems) and bombed the first release after a dynamite KickStarter..
Good points on trying to get the word out before attempts at launch.
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Post by scottwashburn on Dec 10, 2018 15:29:13 GMT
riftsinger : I agree, especially the stores, their like elephants, they never forget. Gotta rub the communication stick pretty hard to get the word out. An all out Communication Blitz will be needed I'm afraid.... Respectfully, Gunny Gunny, I love your meme! Wonder how many get it?
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Post by easye on Dec 18, 2018 0:35:40 GMT
My local did carry it when it was Alien Dungeon. They never carried it as Ironclad games.
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Post by boxholder on Dec 18, 2018 13:35:33 GMT
I am not a marketing genius, but I remember from a business course "The 4 P's" for product success:
Product Price Placement Promotion
With this simple template it is not really hard to see where AQMF's owners have let things slip for various reasons. They have a dynamite product and the price is well in line with other offerings. That leaves the other two. If you don't have it placed where people can see it and get it, forget about it.. And if you don't promote it and nobody knows about it, forget about it, too. Simply showing up at conventions is somewhat self-limiting because you are exposing an alreay interested audience. You must expand the awareness.
A robust promotional campaign might overcome the placement issue or buy some time to stir some retailer interest. Unfortunately, the timing of the turbulence this year has caused the AQMF to largely miss the 2018 Christmas season. If we take GamesWorkshop as an instructive example much comes into focus. They add some products year-round, but a lot of them in the late summer and autumn timeframe. Then, they promote heck out of them in the runup to Christmas. One of their GW people said that their big sales (all of the Warhammer and 40K items) are the larger boxed sets for gifts aimed at late teen gamer demographic with enough content to start playing. They expect that only a small fraction with stay with the system and expand the sales of other expensive sets and items to augment this initial sale. That model seems to have served them well.
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Post by scottwashburn on Dec 18, 2018 15:16:27 GMT
Agreed. Even taking out a very inexpensive banner add on The Miniatures Page (as I do for my PaperTerrain products) can help a lot.
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Post by madmorgan on Dec 18, 2018 20:49:31 GMT
All the above is good stuff if our friends at Tabletop are listening. I'd also hit the ads on social media hard - Facebook at the very least and perhaps Twitter & YouTube (the later for visuals). Retailers have a number of places these days to grab attention - heck, even a local channel 30 sec TV ad can do wonders in large city markets. Or at least in college towns, which might cost less for the size (Lexington KY for UK, Louisville for UL, etc.) I was introduced to a lot of games during the summer Olympics at Michigan State one year. College kids can be real fanatics for a game system - part of the success of the over-priced GW lines. So, by all means get the word out! As an aside, they should take out ads in Scott's book line - like on the inside of front/back covers. That should happen soon. Finally (yeah they say!), does anyone have a pie chart or bar graph of what a major company (Apple,IBM,Coke,etc) spends on advertising?? Or just numbers in percentages? This would give TTG some insight into how 'the big boys' do it. I do hope TTG is 'listening' to us. We all are very heavily invested in the game. Let's help them to succeed !
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