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Post by morbius on Jul 30, 2017 11:23:03 GMT
I know that Scott sells his own version of these, but I am keen on building my own, using up a lot of the left over, free thin sheet MDF that I have in my shed.
The picture on Page 116 of the main rules looks as though the fortress walls are approx 75mm (3 inches) high, of about 5 times the height of the Lobotons next to the wall.
Is that what other people are running with?
Has anyone here seen the backs of the Alien Dungeon/Ironclad Games original walls? I take it that there is a landing for defenders, but how thick are the walls?
I have a fair supply of hydrocal dental plaster and would like to give casting a go as well, so was considering casting my own fortress turrets. As a rule of thumb, I think that if I base these on the same size as the land ironclad, that would be handy. I am considering building my own version of an ironclad, so might as well use common parts.
Can anyone here tell me what circumference of the turrets on the land ironclad are please?
Sorry for asking so many questions, but I do want to make sure that I get these details right.
Thanks,
Craig
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Post by boxholder on Jul 30, 2017 17:50:28 GMT
I would not worry too much about “getting the details right.” Remember that this is the first time that humans have a chance to defend against the Martian invaders and it will all be pretty much “ad hoc.” Every city and every engineer will probably have an idea about what constitutes a good defensive wall, so there will be lots of variability. Within that variability, the primary requirement is to have a wall that is too high for a tripod to step over and to wide for it to straddle. A normal size tripod, that is. This would imply a wall height of about 4 inches or so. To be stable on the game table, it should be something similar in thickness 4 inches or so. With that thickness, you can easily make a 1 inch thick “parapet” and still have a 3 inch wide protected space atop the wall. Space for anti-tripod guns or field guns, heh? There is a discussion of turret sizes up above on another topic. For consistency, it will probably look better it the turret mount wall sections are similar in height and depth to the wall sections. Leave about an inch around the turret for crew access and service. A 4 x 4 x 4 inch cube would probably accommodate about any turret you would make. Should anyone take exception to your wall design, simply smile and request: “Please show me an authentic US Army Corps of Engineers Standard Anti-Tripod Wall Design Specification. “ Watch the critic's eyes glaze over. Also keep in mind that the terrain features are just "stage dressing" for the game. They represent obstacles and defenses, but do not have to be perfect scale replicas. The effects of terrain features can be settled by agreement and "counts as" rulings. Enjoyment of the gameplay and/or enjoyment of the hobby craft are the point. Enjoyment, not stress.
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Post by hardlec on Jul 30, 2017 20:48:06 GMT
Just to keep myself organized: A: You could do a lot worse that to get a set of Scott's walls and reinforce them with MDF. The guide he has for ruined wall pieces could be used to create broken bits with dental plaster. If you make a base and line the insides of the (paper) wall with MDF, you can quickly make a set of modular and nearly indestructible walls. B: Hirst Arts has many excellent molds for plaster which are well worth the price as well. www.hirstarts.com/ C: There are thousands of fortifications and Castles all over Europe and Asia. No two are alike. For that matter, there are as many designs for Fort Zinderneuf as there are remakes of Beau Geste. There are no standard fortifications. Engineers and Architects design each one individually to fit the terrain. If anyone wants to hassle you about scale, I'll convert them to 15mm and let them see for themselves. :-) D: The Assault and Scout tripods have legs about 3 inches tall. They can't easily climb over walls over 3 inches tall. These walls are also scaled for the photo op, i.e. to get the Tripods and the humans in the same shot. I would recommend walls of 4 inches in height. There will be some sort of bulwark to protect the infantry on the top of the wall and some sort of deck for the troops to move along. I'd space towers about 16 inches apart and two sizes. There would be two smaller towers for each big tower, and my towers would fit my material, not vice versa. Stairs would lead up to the top at each tower. A Railroad track would run parallel to the inside wall. Most Important: I agree with Boxholder. Have Fun. Don't stress.
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Post by morbius on Aug 1, 2017 12:08:48 GMT
Can anyone here tell me what circumference of the turrets on the land ironclad are please? Thanks, Craig
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